Train derailment in Ohio gets toxic

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  1. Toker

    Toker Lifetime Supporter

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    That train derailment in Ohio has caused the evacuation of thousands, and now the authorities are releasing highly toxic gases.

    They say the gases are deadly! One was used as a weapon in WWI.

     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I see these trains go by all the time on the main line.
    We call them "bomb" trains.
     
  3. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    75% of our rail system is over 50 years old, using the same timber and spike construction used since 1860. Don't get me started on the rest of the crumbling infrastructure....
     
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  4. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Video: Massive train car explosion bleve
    (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion).
    I was once taught to approach such a scene only as close as necessary to see it.
    With binoculars, look for Sheriff's deputies. If they're all laying on the ground, withdraw.
     
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  5. Twogigahz

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    Something better watched on TV..... Somebody probably put a penny on the track and it derailed. We used to put shit on the track for the switcher to smash them...nuts, bolts, pieces of chain, nails...I wasn't wasting change though - a penny was a piece of Bazooka.... "oh, no, hide, the railroad cops will get us..." like they even cared...
     
  6. Toker

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    I wonder if it's sabotage. The maga crazies are shooting up infrastructure on the instructions of their Russian controllers. They're too naive to even realize how they're being weaponized like Tucker Carlson. Two of the three prongs from the KGB counterintelligence strategy.
     
  7. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    Oh, I bet a lot of this is sabotage....doesn't take many 'turned' rednecks with rifles to wipe out power transmission to a million people.
     
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  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Sounds more like a bearing seized up on a car wheel, a hot box.

    [​IMG]
    Safety Board: Mechanical defect caused East Palestine, Ohio train wreck
     
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  9. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    Probably on a rail car that hasn't been serviced or inspected in ages...... I saw a car wheel boring machine in a big shop once, huge. It would take those wheels on axels and turn them down mirror smooth...

    We have a small line near by, they have about 50 service miles up and back, they move a lot of aggregate. Those tracks are so old in in such bad shape -if you watch the train from either end, you can see the cars wobbling side to side. 25mph rated tracks.....
     
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  10. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    Unlike most of the rest of the world, the US, Canada and Japan, have brakes that fail to danger, rather than apply in event of a fault. Put simply, compressed air is used to apply the brake, rather than release it. As a result, an emergency brake is wound down by hand (5 minutes of hard physical work) when carriages are parked.
    Regularly, one of these brakes is not fully released when the carriage is put back into service. The result is a combination of the wheel sliding along the rails, while tearing the brakes off at the same time, destroying the bearings and producing huge amounts of heat at the same time. The end result is derailment, often coupled with fire. Sometimes the fire comes first.
    Normally, 1 in 5 carriages are mechanically braked overnight, but for safety when a dangerous load is being carried, these tankers are braked additionally. They can easily be overlooked the following morning.
     
  11. Twogigahz

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    Especially now when they have only two guys working the yard and train that have been on 12 hour shifts for the last 15 days.....labor is so screwed in the US....
     
  12. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    Unfortunately, as long as the west continues sending all their money down a one way road to China and the corporations make billions by pocketing the balance, this situation will continue and Detroit will crumble.

    Those same corporations fund the US government, so when someone dared to blow the whistle, he had to go.
    A certain President wanted to make America great again, but his medicine tasted foul and the sheep started bleating again.

    Who do we blame, I don't know. ?????

    PS.
    The UK, along with much of the EU are in the same boat.
     
  13. Mark Blomquist

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    Man, right on the heels of the gas from weed story out of Amsterdam. It would not be a great way to bite the dust - choking until you are dead. Might take days. Let's up they get some air moving through there.
     
  14. Twogigahz

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    That and the square mile of burning old railroad ties.....no worries, it's only creosote....it's organic....
     
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    Have wonder what the EPA was doing about this. RR should have a plan for disaster like this.
     
  17. Twogigahz

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    Did they ever really say what it was that dumped?
     
  18. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ Ancient Mariner Administrator

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    Vinyl chloride. A building block of PVC piping, very toxic, very nasty.

    "This colorless compound is an important industrial chemical chiefly used to produce the polymer polyvinyl chloride (PVC). About 13 million tonnes are produced annually. VCM is among the top twenty largest petrochemicals (petroleum-derived chemicals) in world production." Wikipedia

    And further:

    "Vinyl chloride is a flammable gas that has a sweet odor and is carcinogenic. It can be formed in the environment when soil organisms break down chlorinated solvents. Vinyl chloride that is released by industries or formed by the breakdown of other chlorinated chemicals can enter the air and drinking water supplies."
     
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  19. ~Zen~

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    No one wants to talk about what happens when it burns. But you can see the pics for yourself.

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. nudistguyny

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    Safety regulations were rolled back greatly with the Trump Administration Some companies will only do the bare minimum as required by law. Now with less regulations they do not have the incentive to be as restrict as they were previously. So who is to blame here ? The rail companies that are doing the bare minimum. Or Trump's deregulation cuts that now allow it to happen ? To return to the past standards is going to be a major effort to reestablish . And I am sure a lot of political fighting to get it back on the books.
     

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