Thirted Men may go by physical appearances even more, but that doesn't mean it doesn't play a big role for women and how they determine a choice in what man they want.
We can all pretend that is these virtuous qualities that attract a Woman to a Man, but in patriarchy having money and power tends to be strong aphrodisiac. I haven't experienced this myself because I've never had either, but I see it all the time.
to be fair, a majority of the loud obnoxious guys are actually physically unattractive too. good looking guys have no need to be loud and obnoxious, unless that's just their actual personality, but there is a certain percentage of women that responds very positively to loud obnoxious guys so it's really not a bad strategy for the unattractive guys to follow.
It seems true more men can deal with a loud and obnoxious (arrogant even) woman if she looks good, than the other way around. But women can deal better with obnoxious, loud and/or arrogant men if they're filthy rich. I'm sorry im sounding a bit like VG here but to be clear I don't project this on all women and men
Qualities (some) Women find attractive in Men. (Thank God.) Loveable rogue. Makes sexist jokes but is really a feminist. Borderline soft alcoholic. Has an irascible glint in his eye. Would risk his life to save the one he loves. Generally wears the trousers, but always gives way when he knows Woman is right. Loves obsessively to the point of distraction. Would let his Woman dance with his best friend, but is a jealous guy. Is a hopeless romantic, hates conformity. Disorganized near-genius type, she hopes one day he will get it together. Is a fantastic kisser. Turns from dog to wolf at sundown. Will cook her kippers and scrambles eggs for breakfast. ...I could think of more of my finer qualities, but it would all just be singing from the same hymn sheet. Lol. Maybe this is why am single haha! Who's gonna love me the way I am? Just a reaction against the fucking bland quotidian meta-prescription telling me how to be a man.
Yeah the guy you describe here does sound pretty hot Well, minus the alcoholism and loving obsessively. That's a hard no from me
It drives me a little nuts when men go out of their way to hold doors or open doors for me. Obviously, if you are walking into a door before me then yes, please hold it open. Or if you happen to be standing outside my car door and want to open it, ok whatever, that's just polite. But on the other hand, I briefly dated this guy who would like run out from behind me so that he could open the door for me. WHY?
To show you he really liked you would be my guess. But yes, it often depends on the details if something like that looks good or comes across as an exaggerated effort...
Irminsul Speed dating Irm: Whoop whoop Man: what? Irm: NEXT! A dudes gotta man up and Gimmie a whoop whoop.
The closer you get to an urban area, the higher women's heals become and the more often they look for men who have money, and can actually support raising children. Other evidence indicates that bullies get laid more often. This is the same behavior noted in birds with genetic studies, which revealed that they would look for a mate with less healthy genes, but who had built a nice nest and defended their territory, and then have sex with other males with healthier genes. In chimpanzee society, the females usually decide who becomes the alpha male, based on which one supplies the troop with the most food and doesn't get involved in petty disputes unless it become necessary. Those are the same qualities people look for in a good boss at work.
This is why women should be the ones to author these particular threads and lead discussions on these type of topics. I get more out of it then.