Time to experience the thrill.

Finally! After many many months of searching I have finally found a person that can get me some shrooms. This will be my first time taking any psychedelic. I've never dealt with anything other than weed before so I have a couple of questions:

1) I've read that 1/8th is a good amount for the first time. How much do you think 1/8th will cost? I'm not trying to get completely ripped off.

2) There is a party coming up soon that I would like to eat the shrooms at. Would this be a wise decision or should I eat them at a relaxed environment like acid?

3) Usually when I smoke weed I go into this I love life mood. Can I toke up before I eat the shrooms or will the mixture of the two be a bad idea for a first timer?

4) I've read that the effects aren't as good if you have a full stomach and that I should fast for 6 hours prior to the indigestion of the shrooms. Is this true?

Thanks in advance guys

 

1) 20-40$ is the normal range i'd say

2) doing mushrooms at a party is like the best way to have a bad trip. mushrooms are one of the most intense psychedelics, way more intense than acid. An eighth is enough to make you completely paralyzed and incoherent if they are strong. if they are weak you might just get giggly, silly, horny. In which case a party would be 'ok', but the thing is, you don't know how strong they are until they're in you, and potency can vary a lot even within the same batch of shrooms.

3) mushrooms have that mood too if you're in a good place, sure you can toke throughout the whole experience if you want.

4) you should always fast at least 3 hours before taking ANY drug orally. Any food in your stomach is going to slow down absorption of any chemicals in your stomach drastically.

 

Have some chocolate handy to eat them with.

 

I'm weird. I hate chocolate. Can I drink some lemonade/juice with it?

 

You can drink any kind of juice you want with it, that won't make any difference whatsoever. Eating any food however, including chocolate, will make the experience less intense, simply by mechanically slowing down your body's absorption of the active chemicals in the mushrooms.

Actually one of the best ways to take mushrooms is to grind them up into powder, put them into a glass of PURE lemon juice, swirl and mix it around for 10 minutes, and then eat it with a spoon like a soup. Sounds gross, but the lemon juice is acidic enough to give you a headstart on digesting the fungal plant matter and when you drink that lemon juice the active compounds will hit you like a ton of bricks.

 

This statement puzzles me mostly because it just isn't true.

I see younger people on this board say this a lot and I can only conclude that the acid these days must be terribly weak.

They can both be just as intense depending on the dose and a zillion other factors, not including the participants metabolism.

Check it
Pharmaceutical journals from the research era all agree; pure LSD 25 is far more psychoactive than pure psilocybin

ZW

 

By weight, yes. LSD is one of the most potent psychedelics, for sure. But I'm talking about "intensity of experience" as it relates to say, being able to function at a party. I'd rather be on high dose LSD at a party than high dose 4-HO-DMT.

 

Mushrooms are the only psychedelic I'm hesitant to go back to.
And I'm not the only person I know in the same situation.

 

I'm with zombiewolf on this - srooms, more potent that acid??!! The acid you are getting must be horribly week if acid at all. Good acid should put you in another world - you can see this world - but you are not in it - it should be more that a really interesting evening.
I used to pick srooms out of cow patties and 1/8 would be a waste of effort and time. At least two in tea for a pretty good buzz. Maybe you are talking about a different species.
What the OP is saying is so bassacwards of my experiences.

 

Bro, he is talking about the intensity of the experience, not the potency by weight. I don't understand how the two of you are confusing this?
I'll leave it at that lol.

 

yea, yea I get it and that is not what I'm talking about, waddya think I'm stupid? yes mushrooms can be quite intense but if you are saying the experience is more intense than lsd then I maintain you've never tripped on acid or have never had a decent enough dose
and don't come back with some crap about my never having done good... mushrooms. I've grown cubensis from spore so good that a half gram would rock your world. but alas you'll never ever see that 70's windowpane, blotter and microdot. Those days apparently are long gone. too bad for you.:coffee:

 

Have you taken into consideration that the effects produced by each substasnce are different, and that what one may find comfortable, another might find a nightmare?
No need to throw around your massive experience, I assure you that myself, yourself and Writer have plenty to form our opinions from.

 

I'm saying they are really not all that different. Tripping is tripping, once you reach that threshhold. I have no experience with say, dmt, mda, mmda, x, or whatever but I would be willing to bet that it would equal the same thing if you took enough to reach that profound threshold.

 

Mushrooms and LSD are indeed rather similar, but every effect they have on the senses come with their own
unique differences. Much of it can't easily be put across with words, it's just something you *know*.
For example, the visuals with LSD tend to be fluid like and more pronounced, much more defined in terms
of color and light brilliance, things seems to sort of expand and pop, contract, distort,
while with mushrooms they are more mother of pearl, shimmering, shining, breathing etc. It's true the
visuals take on the same form but there is a definite difference between the two, with mushroom visuals
only really becoming overwhelming in high doses. The closed eye visuals are dramatically different,
in my experience LSD brings about synaesthestic geometric patterns and sort of animated representations
of the imagination, while mushroom closed eye visuals are almost like sober dream sequences.
Depending on the dose of course this can all greatly change, I've had a few hits of LSD that brought me
so far out of my mind that I couldn't even comprehend my enviorment, when I opened my eyes there was no
recognizable surroundings; I thought I was in outer space at first, then that I was inside an atom, then
I took a stroll through the quantum foam and travelled through a few worm holes lol.
With my strangest and most profound mushroom trip, there is very very few visions and sensations I had
that can be explained. There was truly nothing like it, not even DMT, I'd never come through anything as
strange and simply 'other' as that peak. This was after a few hundred experiences prior to, and like our
friend above I've picked my own before, grown them, had them from all over the world.
It's true, I am no chemist and have no way of 100% determining that what I've taken well over 150 times was
actual LSD, but considering that I've taken 2c-e, DOX, 5-meo-AMT, AMT, and a few other chemicals, I feel
fairly certain that the blotter and liquid I've taken in my day were legitamite, the last batch of which
was the cystal taken in from Czechoslovakia that a few on this forum have been raving about over this
winter season. I know exactly who that came from While it's true that I am not old enough to have
experienced what was around in the good ol days, I'm certain that I know what I'm talking about.
I apologize for the dick measuring but I want to assure you that I'm not talking out of my ass when I say
that mushrooms are positively a bit more 'work' then LSD.

 

:2thumbsup: gonna take the journey with my girl this summer! Haven't eaten the teachers since my total obliteration years ago Wow, can't believe it's been that long.

I cannot express strongly enough how wrong this is. A high dose mushrooms experience is nothing at all like a high dose LSD experience, and I have done both. Actually, I haven't done high dose mushrooms. I did 2.5g, and it turned my world into a white dimension of orgasm and holy laughter. 15 hits of good liquid LSD meanwhile, and I could still operate my phone to beg my friend to come save me as I dissolved into the ground and air . . . but still nowhere even near the same ballpark as 2.5 measly grams of good mushrooms. I don't think I could have even responded verbally, or non-verbally to someone on the peak of 2.5g mush, while i was "ok" on 15 hits, good enough to understand things like "wait for my friends to pick me up".

The difference between things like DMT and MDMA is so insanely vast that you really are saying silly things . . . it's like comparing alcohol and LSD and saying that essentially once you are drunk enough or tripping on acid hard enough "its the same thing". My god, is it ever not. That's the whole point of why there are so many different psychedelics.

 

I remember you typing that experience well, just like it was yesterday bro. It made me very happy to read, to think to myself "Finally! Someone else on here got there with mushrooms!"
It get's a bit lonely to find that most simply have no idea at all how powerful those things can be. The same thing happened to me, roughly 2.5 - 3 grams took me farther then any other psychedelic. Indeed, it was truly the first time I felt not only unsure, but certain, that I was not coming back...
I can't wait to read about your next journey, I didn't even know you had a girl these days!
If you go to type them and start the post with "This will be my last post to the forums, I'm never taking any psychedelic drugs ever again," I will smile and nod lol Good luck!

 

Here ya go, if you are interested...

ON THE CONFORMATIONS OF HALLUCINOGENIC MOLECULES AND THEIR CORRELATION

Both the subjective impressions of the hallucinatory effect of compounds related to lysergic acid, tryptamine, and phenylethalamine and the cross-tolerance that occurs between d-lysergic acid, psilosybin, and mescaline imply a common mechanism for their action. A molecules properties are intimately related to it's structure; in this paper we propose probable conformations for these hallucinogenic molecules, and correlate these conformations with each other and with those of nerve transmitter molecules.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC223427/

ZW eace:

 

Common mechanism of action =/= same subjective effects. Ketamine and alcohol both work through your GABA system, but there's no way you'd confuse the two in high doses. Only at LOW doses would you confuse ketamine/alcohol and mushroom/LSD. Even at moderate doses they are so wildly different I have no hesitation in saying I would be 100% correct in identifying them every time in a blind study . . . I mean really, even just taking their duration into account. Mushrooms are shorter by several hours . . . much more incapacitating, they peak within one or two hours as opposed to three or four hours for LSD . . . just so many differences I can't believe I'm saying this to a "hippie from the 60s who did the best acid and the best mushrooms". When was your last trip on them both, maybe its just been a while and you can't remember how radically different they are. They even just "feel" different in an inexpressible way, mushrooms have so much more of a body high, and feel "earthy", LSD is so cerebral and feels "liquid". Mushrooms also cause ego death like ten times more strongly than LSD, which is more sensorial/thought oriented.

I'm also tired of people who lived through the 60s and 70s telling us we don't get good acid. While I'm sure really good acid was much more widely available, you should know that there is still really good acid out there, it's just much less available. It does exist though, and many of us here who were born in the 80s and 90s have access to it.

 

They are not exactly the same, but they are not radically different.
Much more incapacitating? That's a fucking joke. Maybe you should work on your mental awareness, physical fitness and what-not. (You could have a health problem.)

I think you'll find consensus among trippers from the golden age...
claiming mushrooms are more "intense" than acid simply outs you as a neophite.

ZW

 

Disregarding your absurd assumption and rather smug manner of differing your opinion in the first paragraph, I can entertain what you've put forth in the second paragraph and in all good conscience tell you that this is not necessarily always the case. Considering that most of the people I've spoken with, in your age range, regards psychedelic drugs, have taken LSD more than mushrooms and therefor are of bias; yet there have been several who have claimed to the contrary in Writers favor.
Then again, many of the people of your age that I've spoken with are also of the belief that LSd contains many impurities when you have a bad trip, that "bad acid" is made in bathubs and kitchens, and that mushrooms contain strychnine so therefor taking higher dosages is only more intense in that oft-dreaded sense that you are being physically poisoned.
LSD may be more intense for you, Zombie, but for some it is not. I can never understand how people speak with such absolute authority about something that is so inherently subjective and so confounding. To each his own bro.