Through a thought experiment I can prove to you that who you are is based on ur goals

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by ChangeHappens, Jun 28, 2009.

  1. ChangeHappens

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    Close your eyes. Imagine that you have absolutely not goals. Nothing, at all to achieve. Be in the darkness that reigns with closed eyes.

    Once you have achieved this, state, try and figure out who you are.

    Proof is in the pouding.
     
  2. bluediablo

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    but...i don't have any goals anywase...
     
  3. Magpiethief

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    Well when I closed my eyes I couldn't read anymore so I had to open them again to finish reading. But yeah, goals? I live in the moment dude.
     
  4. Nobody wants to be completely identified. It'd be like being completely stolen. Some people want to steal people's identities, though.

    Who I am isn't really a matter of words, not something you could ultimately describe satisfactorily.

    Isn't who you are based in your past? It's kind of strange how the past is a goal. To some degree I would say it is, but ultimately, I'm not sure. Like, when exactly do you become "you"? Do you exist before conception? Are you timeless? Etc.
     
  5. ChangeHappens

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    I have drawn one question from this that interesting.

    Is who you are based on your past?

    This answer depends largely on whether or not you believe that who you are is defined as the same thing I define it as.

    HUUU-YYYUUUU-ooo-RRRR is a sound, it refers to a thing in existence and as a sound it is used to refer to it during conversation, without having to physically take the person to that thing and point to it. IE. Me and you are having a conversation about dogs. We use the word 'black' to refer to a color that we both see. We do this so that everytime I talk about my favorite dog and how it is a black labrador, I would not be forced to take you to an object that is black and point to it. In the same way, 'who you are' is just a sound that we use to refer to this. My point is not that we use sounds to refer to idea's but that we have to get 'who you are' into a parallel junction of thought into our conversation, before we attempt to agree and disagree, learn or teach each other.

    I then must ask you - what does 'who you are' refer to?

    I will say that 'who you are' refers to an idea about what your interests/thoughts/behaviours are like, in relation to your future.

    I believe in relation to your future because any idea is based in the future.

    Why this is the case? Is an idea for something that benefits you that you gain enjoyment from? Do you sit there an think up something for enjoyment, for gain or for nothing it all? Can you do something for nothing, what is nothing, is that not an idea as well? What do you think for, nothing or something? And if so, isnt enjoyment, isnt gain in the future? Even if it is in the near future? Thinking is intrinsically about the future. Conclusion. This is reality, although I dont feel that way so I dont care. It still is.

    Now that you can better understand use of 'huuu-ooo- yuuu - ARRRRhardihar' hit me back with a definition before we get it on, before the bell rings and may the best reality win.
     
  6. ChangeHappens

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    OO - BTW I am ;) Brutally and quintessentially honest.
     
  7. My name is Andy. :)
     
  8. ChangeHappens

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    hey Andy

    Whats up, nice to finally meet with you.

    My name is Jay, short form.
     

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