Thoughts of religion

I kind of have a beef with certain organized religions. You know, there's good and bad, just like anything else. The thing about religion is, it preys upon people's wearknesses. If you take that kind of power and use it the wrong way, that's really bad. My concept of god is too large to even begin discussing... all I know is that it isn't a little guy in a white coat. That's where the bible loses its credibility in some cases because God supposedly created man in his own image in Christianity. God to me is fairth that there is a higher power. It's an understanding. Heaven is bollocks. It's nothing but a stroy. Hell is the same way. They're stories. A responsible organized religion is one that reaches out into the congregation and helps people. Uses the money, sends it back. The ones that are just into it for the bush go the other way and take advantage. Those are probably the ones that give you the most doubt about whether the system is even workable.

I believe in karma and think it's much easier to believe in than heaven and hell. It makes more sense. It happens... But the heaven and hell story, those are just big metaphors for "You go up or down"... What did you do and how did you fare. All of that stuff... it's just a way of measuring whether you're a good person or a bad person. They gotta give you a conscience. Tying to organize this conscience to be responsible. Faith and conscience are two very difficult to define concepts. It's hard to do so people write stories to explain what they are. The bible is one of them. None of them are perfect... they all got mixed reviews and some people like one but they don't like the other. Nobody likes all of tem so in the end these stories of heaven and hell/adam and eve, the whole fucking thing i no more than this year's movies. Just stories to hang your hat on.

 

Fuck religion. There is no religion I hate more than Christianity. Islam is up there too, but nowhere near Christianity.

 

I agree; I also wanna add judaism there too, along with any large, organized religion. (but mostly christianity) Bigoted asshole, me? naw

religion fucking sucks, and I aint gonna sugarcoat it. it's responsible fer millions and millions of pointless, wrongful deaths throught the history of it. So it gives some hope, so what? That's fine, but, when it kills/persecutes people, which it ALWAYS does (yes, always), ya gotta draw the line. I could go on and on fer hours, but, yea. I'll stop here.

ah, but. one more thing. I personally like to believe there is some sort of better life after ya die, fer everyone, no matter "how bad they are". because, the way christians view hell is the way I view earth - earth is hell, so there gotta be something good to balance it with, ya know. I dunno what it's like if it's there though.... but yea, I do fine without religion, that there's just speculation.

 

this is what pot will do to you folks

 

I'm a Christian and proud of it.

 

A good website christianburner.com Read kiss hanks ass. I've noticed the two christians who have posted so far didnt even make an argument for why they believe the way they do. Just like all christians they ridicule others for not believing the same way as them or they just believe.

 

Of course you're a Christian, you support Bush. I knew that from the moment you came here. Do you not want to enjoy your civil liberties when you get the chance too? In two years, you will regret ever supporting that fucker. Unless you don't care about this planet or your freedom, which I'm guessing you don't.

 

Actually I support Bush because I support freedom, not just for us but for everyone on this planet and I don't see Kerry doing anything to help spread freedom.

and to Easy_Cure, please tell me when I insulted your beliefs, because if just stating my beliefs is insulting, then you sir insulted me too.

 

God I'm glad you can't vote yet

I guarantee you this though. In four years, my votes gonna beat yer votes ass, and kerry will be re-elected

If you support freedom, then it doesn't make sense to vote Bush. Bush is attempting to take away many of the basic freedoms promised to us originally as U.S. Citizens. Bush put extreme limits on stem cell research, banned one type of abortion, as he couldn't get abortion fully banned, allows gays to be fired for being gay if they work in government jobs, and hey, have you heard of the patriot act my dear?

Some fun facts just for you, deary.

The patriot act:

allows the FBI to obtain individuals' medical, mental health, financial, educational, bank and library records without showing probably cause.

prevents libraries, hospitals, internet service providers and other institutions from informing clients that private records have been released.

expands the FBI's powers of internet and phone surveillance.

Permits the attorney general and secretary of state to designate domestic groups, including religious and political organizations, as terrorist organizations. Based on this provision, organizations engaging in political advocacy may be subject to suerveillance, wiretaping, harrasment and criminal action

authorizes eavesdropping on confidential communications between lawyers and their clients in federal custody

the law allows law enforcement agencies to obtain a warrant and search a residence without immdiately informing the occupants if the attorney general has determined this to be an issue of national security.

allows intelligence gathering at religious events.

 

I am against organized religion but I barrow parts of each religion that I find useful and aplicable.

 

These might infringe somewhat on our rights, but they don't take away them, and this isn't the 1st time such things have been done, there was the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798 and the Espinoage act in WW1 are just 2 examples of when things like the Patriot act have been done before. And I diddn't say I supported everything Bush does, like stem cells, I don't like how we get them, but the medical potential is far to great not to.

 

You know the legalities of a miscarraige? If you have an abortion you can choose what you want done with the fetus but if you have a premature birth/miscarraige it becomes property of the government/hospital. It's a legality you have no right over, but it's something not many know about. Federal funding can go to miscarraiges but not to abortions. I don't see the point.

 

well jesus harold christ. just cause it been done before DON'T make it right!!! eh, nevermind, there's no use explaining anything logical to a christian and/or bush supporter.

 

or a christian bush supporter

 

If I believed in heaven, maybe I would be a bit happier. Just thinking that the average, mundane 9 to 5 is just a preparation, just an entrance exam for paradise.


Unfortunately I do not believe that...

 

Eh, Bush and Kerry aren't the only candidates, you know.

 

I don't believe in hell, but I still am a christian.

If you're talking about me (because I have posted some stuff about my religion), then I'm sorry if I offended you. You kind of have to understand that it's not really something you can explain or argue.

Argh. I keep gravitating towards these little God/Heaven/Hell/Jesus/Chritianity threads and it gets me into trouble! I think I'll go read the Bible.

 

Well know what? When i said that i didn't exactly think about a minority of one - you know what I'm talking about.

 

Don't be hesitant, you seem like a sweet, intelligent gal, and everyone's beliefs are welcome in here.

 

Supporting Bush because you support freedom is an oxymoron. I was going to post about the Patriot Act, which oppresses freedom of speech, along with all the other stuff Shelly posted. Can you explain why peaceful Anti-Bush protestors are arrested when peaceful Pro-Bush protestors are allowed to keep cheering on the president? And before you say "it's a security issue," if a terrorist wanted to get closer to the president, he wouldn't be stupid enough to carry an anti Bush sign when a pro Bush sign would get him or her much closer to the president.