Thought Control

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Spiritchalist, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. Spiritchalist

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    Education is but a set of close-minded boundaries imposed upon us, to control the ways in which we may think, and how we perceive, set down by the self-proclaimed elite, fearing the uncontrollable.
     
  2. Bl4ck3n3D

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    The current education system does not teach one how to think, but what to think.

    I believe the education system is set up in a way that restricts children's inner self, kid's are almost treated as if they are criminals.

    The education system pounds facts and information into you whilst teaching you not to question what your told. The education system, represses freedom and creativity in children. In place is a curriculum designed to prepare one for the 9-5 life style.

    The current education system is meant to prepare one for entry into the modern society of repetitive slaving for wealth and material gain.
     
  3. Maitereya

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    i agree with ^ that guy.

    its set up that way because that is how the system works.

    as for thought control that is another issue. but i can see how the education system is a way to mold minds, for better or worse.
     
  4. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    I agree entirely with what Bl4ck3n3D said. I might add that by teaching students what to think, without giving any importance to how to think (curiosity, creativity, etc.) students learn a way to think... and that is a cynical, a materialist, a ''grade = money = happiness'' way to think.
    And that is natural, because that is the simplest way to ''survive'' in the modern academic and professional world....unfortunatly!
     
  5. Topher D.

    Topher D. Senior Member

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    exactly, all you are tought in school is to be a hard worker, so you get good grades, so you make it in to a good college, so you get a good job, so you can make lots of money, so you can be a greedy bastard, because material items = happiness. AND IF YOU SHALL FAIL AT ANY OF THESE STEPS IN THIS PROCESS, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE UP IN LIFE BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLACE IN SOCIETY FOR YOU.

    and they teach this to KIDS!

    The easily manipulated, and sufficently controlled.

    i can agree that its teaching us how to think because ive only met a handful of people who DONT think this way. who know that material posessions dont mean shit. and half of the people that think like i do are over the age of 50 and have years of wisdom and experience that freed them from the "conformed" way of thinking.
     
  6. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    But is it an ''elite'' that imposed this upon us? Or is it rather society that is imposing this to itself?
    I personnally don't think this way of thinking comes from the top. After all, the riches and powerful are the one that are the most trapped in this quest for material wealth and futile power. It's more psychology than politics, in my opinion.

    The individual is tempted to give in to the simplest, most available solution that calms his fears and insecurity. Yet, there is passion for life beneath the fear!
     
  7. Topher D.

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    Its society. the competitive nature of the incompetent. the urge to keep up with the jones'. its not about mere survival anymore. its about laziness and material posessions ruling our lives. no one wants to put in a hard days work anymore plowing the fields and milking the cows, they want to go sit behind a computer for eight hours and go to wally-world and pick up a gallon of milk and some corn.
     
  8. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    i learnt stuff besides how to be a good worker for the future in school.

    i learnt about the goings on in history, how to read and write and do maths. how to do scientific experiments and play sports. and how to be a social being and make friends and build relationships. i also learnt how to rebel against school systems and take lots of drugs. if school was that much of a mind control, surely these things would never happen. and without attending school, i think i personally wouldnt even have the ability to sit here and type this out as noone around me personally would have had the time to teach me what the education system has.

    just my two cents.
     
  9. Topher D.

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    no one said they are sucessful at it. and no one said that its their main objective. yeah, there are things you should be taught just to simply survive, and school has done that, but its also a corrupt system with underlying tones of conformity.
     
  10. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    is learning how to conform a bad thing necassarily?
     
  11. Topher D.

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    yes. yes it is. why would you want to be like every other ignorant human being fueling the corporate machine, further enslaving yourself. you put your money into corporations, corporations fuel the government, the government controls us. we are fueling control.
     
  12. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    so are you personally succesful at avoiding this control and conformity? if not and you know its a bad thing how will you change it so you no longer conform? :)
     
  13. Topher D.

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    I am working at it actually. as i am still a senior in high school, its hard to maintain a non-corporate lifestyle and go to school full time. But as soon as i graduate, living in a camper, growing my own food, making my own clothes, selling my wares, basically just getting out of society's machine.
     
  14. odon

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    Good for you. But if we all tried to live like that we would be totally fucked.
    If you want a none coporate lifestyle you can't sell anything.
     
  15. Topher D.

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    of course i can sell things, im not a corporation. im not even a business owner. my income is non-taxable. my money isnt going to any corporations. its going to my survival.
     
  16. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    if your selling things surely thats just the same on a smaller scale? making money to live.....thats all any of us are doing, theres just different methodso doing it.

    with no conformity what so ever, what advancement would there be....if einstein never learnt where would we be today, same as newton and all other educated people who have shaped the way we live. also with no conformity, who would care for the sick, or the mentally ill if everyone assumed the sort of life style you suggest for yourself? if none of bought in and conformed to society, and just let natural selection run its course, whos to say we would even be here now? the state has its uses as does conformity on a scale.

    as with everything its got to be within a sensible limit and within reason.
     
  17. Topher D.

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    Im not doing the same, because on a small scale, i have no control over the government whatsoever. nor would i want it.

    And to say that making money to stay alive is conforming is like saying that breathing is conforming. of course your going to need some kind of currency to stay alive. im not saying that i am completely going off the grid. obviously if i break my arm or have a heart attack, im going to need money to pay the doctor to stay alive.

    im not saying my lifestyle is for everyone. im saying that i do not feel like being responsible for the downfall of personal freedoms.
     
  18. odon

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    I'ts a fair point I suppose.
    Just seems at odds with the lifestyle.
    I just think if your going to be self sufficient it has to be total and NO crutches. No caveats.
     
  19. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    but if you are suggesting that conforming to society is always a bad thing as you said previously, surely you would condone everyone to break away from the system? people doing bad things are always advised to do the right thing. and if your ideas about conformity is right and everyone took the same view of that, in your eyes would that be a good thing? if not, you obviously dont mind the conformity that much and are happy for others to conform in case you are ever in need of a service that would not be provided without people playing taxes and following a goverment system.
     
  20. Topher D.

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    i have my ideas for an ideal society. however, trying to impliment this, would be pointless. so i am dropping out of society as well as possible.
     

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