Iv been smoking pot for almost half a year now. and i want to start getting slowly into hallucinagins, but i always want to be safe or @ least try to be. Im thinking of trying salvia first becasue it is simple to get and legal. I have been doing ALOT and ALOT of research , reading trip repots etc, I was wondering is there anything else i should know? The thing about me is im a very nervouse person when im about to try a new drug when i first tryed smoking marijuana , my second time when i was high i had a panic attack becasue i got scared and got VERY VERY VERY paranoide. It took me 40 minutes to calm my self down and even then my heart beat was not at a normal rate. thats why i need to know ALOT before i try anything. Now marijuana is like air to me im fine but im worried that i wont be able to handle salvia im thinking of starting with 10x or 20x ideas?
salvia is VERY potent i was dumb enough to try it when my friend had it just cause i was curious but it makes u trip HARD thank god my trip was fun but i could definitly see someone haveing a horrible trip on it though it doesnt last very long i wouldnt reccomend it for a first trip
You do not want to be nervous when trying it. If you're nervous or paranoid thoughts might start creeping in once you take the hit like... "whoa this is alot stronger then I thought" "maybe it's too strong for me and I shoulda done 10x" "shit I don't want this I can't handle it" ect... resulting in some intense anxiety and feeling of being stuck and unable to become sober again. You want to be completely carefree during the entire comeup of salvia (like 25 seconds) Play some good music maybe. Also, some people seem to react very different with it, I have a friend that gets good hallucingenic experiences, the other freaked out (started running around the house looking for us because he was in a 2d world and we weren't there even though we were standing infront of him), and the other gets nothing but a slight pulling and crawling sensation all over his body ( i get the same sensation but it's more intense) You might also feel like your thoughts are being pulled or sucked from your head. To say the least if it works, you will feel very very different when it wears off, and your surroundings will seem as if you haven't been there before - even in your own home. Anyways, go for it, you don't know which category of people you'll fall into to me it's like russian roullette for first timers, atleast all the first timers I've seen do it. It would be wise to #1 have someone make sure you don't flip out run outside and get hit by a car #2 if you can't do that lock your door and stay in your room so you can't go to the kitchen and think that the knives are bananas. Usually it won't last long enough for someone to do that but you wouldn't want to risk it. I do know when i reached for the door knob it became an ice cream cone.
I wouldn't recommend salvia as the first psychedelic to try. You mentioned that it was legal and easy to get, maybe you should look into Morning Glory seeds. People have different opinions on them, so you have to give them a shot to decide for yourself. I've experienced them and I didn't dislike it, but it wasn't the greatest thing either. It's definitely one of the weaker psychedelics though. I would consider it a good starter.
if it scares you shitless, at least it will end in a few minutes (although i've felt effects as much as an hour later). those minutes will feel like eternity, but, it will end. everyone is different, but i'll describe it as i experience it: when you first breathe out, you'll get a huge grin on your face. the best words i can think of to describe the feeling: dripping, grinding, pulsing, stinging, glittering, baritone, and melty. to me, the feeling seems to have a sound to it, although you don't hear it. you feel the sound. it's sort of techno-trancey, very deep, and it "feels" overwhelmingly loud. it's not "pleasant" in the way you would think of something "feeling good", but it is very interesting and strange and COMPLETELY new, like nothing you could ever imagine. you might forget what a human is, what the english language is, that you have a body, who you are, and where you are. you might start thinking really intensely about something, but once you realize it, you won't know what you were thinking about. you will see things, but you probably won't be surprised or alarmed. you might not be able to tell what they are, because you will lose all words and names for things. the first time, you will be thrown into world which you otherwise couldn't possibly fathom, and it will grab you by the balls and you'll be more confused than you have ever been before. if you choose to do it again, and again, and more times, it won't become familiar in any way, but you'll be less shocked and able to explore it more. it's not "fun", unless you consider experiencing the strangest sensations and sights possible to be fun. which i do.
I read all abouti t , i dont need to know that i foget i smoked salvia etc. I was wondering what potency would u recomend for a first tryer? 10x , 20x , 40x?? Remember i want to try tobe as safe as possible as it should be my first time : - ) Im not planing to do salvia as a party drug...HELL NO! im planning to advance my self , i want to explore it to another world.. i might not be able to see as a human in this reality. I want to see somthing new, explor for my self..maybe learn somthing.
As say go for the highest you can get. Because then you dont have to smoke as much. I advice ya to read up on spiritual side of saliva (it was used for 1000s of years). There is a neat video about 50 mins in lenght on google just type in salvia and i bet you can find it. Once you read up on the spirituial side of salvia then you can (I believe) you can explore more indepth.
you said you were scared you might not be able to handle it, so i was just trying to help you know what to expect. sorry. if you already know all you can, and you're going into it for the right reasons, and you're prepared, it really doesn't matter what potency you use. you don't know how your body will react, so just jump into whatever you feel comfortable with the first time.
Hahaha, that sounds like a trip man. The thing thats wierd is i have friends who do 5x which just seems like a mind fuck to me and friends who do 40x. so im thinking of just buying 20x , with a friend and trying it in his house when his parents are out of town. Do we need a trip sitter?? most of my friends say NO others say YES so im confussed when it comes to that.
I think you'll be fine if your a level headed person, I did it alone, no big thing, Ive only done 5x though, it was not that intense I had the strangest need to lay down on my back, the backs of my arms and legs got EXTREMLY heavy and I felt I was forced to lay on my back, not altogether the most exciting, spiritual or fun experiance but it was an experiance, I have no desire to do salvia again in the near future. I cant see anyone smokeing it like people smoke marijuana, but who knows "People are strange".
i would say absolutely DO NOT have a sitter, unless they have done salvia a lot themselves and promise not to talk or interfere. people asking questions, talking about you, or otherwise being weird = FUCKIN HORRIBLE trip. especially since, like you said, you get paranoid. even if they do swear to just be there for your safety, wondering what you look like or what you're doing could distract you from learning anything. if you decide to be alone, just lock your door and move anything you might trip over.
Well if i smoke would it be good to go into my washroom , and lock the door and just sit on the lid of my toliet? or would i be dream walking , and might fall into the tub? see im thinking all of the scinario's. I want to do it with friends , but then again you are right... becasue im scared afteri take a toke i might drop the bong .. and start a fire and thats NOT good @ all ... haha. What im thinking of is , doing it with a couple of people who smoke salvia all the time. But i want it to be an experence not like marijuana which is AMAZING it self...but marijuana = be with friends i dunno if i should just toke in my room , but i cant lock the door ... see thats my thought.. would i be able to walk around when im high on salvia?
My friend who freaked out on it, basically ran upstairs screaming "where is everybody?" over and over. He was in a 2 dimensional world he was flat, we found him flat up against the fridge doing who knows what to it when we finally caught up to him. So YES you can walk around on it, you can also run but anything you do after the onset, most likely won't be intentional. Accept the fact that once you take it you could be a fumbling idiot freaking out for a couple minutes. If you can get over that you might have a good trip where the salvia god speaks to you and offers guidance or you could be auctioned off to alien sentinents. Ohyea, I recommend 20x. Some people complain about weaker salvia's doing nothing or not much. If you're in a dark room (no candles) play some good music you will definitly become lost as is salvias intentions.
Thanks thats my plan! but someone told me , music just sounds plain annoying to you when ur on salvia.. and u cant understand the music and its just fucked? would trippy music be concierd Shpongle - Psychedelic band?
omg, salvia, was the scariest thing to ever happen to me, i do not reccomend it, i took it w/ 3 other friends, i hit it first, i started screaming make it stop! make it stop!, i kept spinning, the floors, were rolling me, making me do flips, and summersaults, i felt paralized, it was the scariest thing in my life. so much shit was going on... and i couldnt see any of my friends while i was tripping.. but they had to grab me, and seriouily calm me down, i was flipping out hardcore. worst experience in my life from salvia. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO SCARED IN MY LIFE, off 1 hit from salvia.