They're not even trying anymore

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by somethingwitty, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. somethingwitty

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    Seen on the MARC commuter train (between Baltimore and DC)

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  2. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    now thats something straight out of 1984.. scary shit...
     
  3. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Wow, this isn't a joke? (o_O) Hell that looks almost just like the "Homeland Security" posters people joke around with. Pretty scary...
     
  4. somethingwitty

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    From what I can gather it is real. I thought it had to be a joke as well.
     
  5. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Looks every bit like the 'ol Soviet citizenry posters I saw in Moscow back in the 80's. Funny how the Trotskyites inevitably reveal their true colours.

    Wake up America!
     
  6. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Here is a little bit of information on this poster:

    http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3288/

    It appears that it's authenticity has been questioned many times.

    Here is a website, however, that looks innocent enough. It's a site supposedly dedicated to posting pictures of trains. Anyway, the poster is on the site and may have originated there:

    http://www.mdrails.com/Marc.html

    Here's another website which displays the poster:

    http://www.technorati.com/tag/propaganda

    Okay, this site seems to clear things up pretty well:

    http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2005/06/loyal_citizens.shtml

    It looks like the posters are real but not created by the government. It's still pretty creepy, though.
     
  7. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    Hello big brother!
     
  8. Amanda's Shadow

    Amanda's Shadow Flower Child

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    i saw a commercial where a little boy asked his mother, "if there is a terrorist attack, where do i bring suzie?" (his little sister) "should we go to the neighbors?" etc

    it was freaking scary

    they are trying to scare us into supporting the war.
     
  9. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I agree with the poster (pardon the pun) who wrote

    A poster with a bit of 'art' pretentions and we all get over excited.
     
  10. Syntax

    Syntax Senior Member

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    That's a good point, actually. One thing that could be said about Soviet propaganda and modes of persuasion: they were so direct, that nobody bought them. America on the other hand, always was far more subtle when brainwashing its citizens, and making them believe in their government and president.
     
  11. somethingwitty

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    Hehe, that's what I meant when I said they're not even trying any more, like they're not even trying anymore to cover it up. :)
    I guess if the general public saw it as overt then it would be good, however I'm thinking many people don't even make the connection.
     
  12. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    ?... 'If you see anything suspicious please report it to the driver' that is prety much what it is saying. It has a bit of artistic merit.. so what. 'Brainwashing' the public into being more observant , that would be a bad thing then ?. The quote was saying that most public information posters nobody takes a blind bit of notice of, one that is a bit 'difrerent' will make people take notice of the message. How and why people make some 'orwelian' conspiracy up is beyond me (well actualy not really).

    Cover what up, what connection ?.
     
  13. somethingwitty

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    Cover up the police state the United States is becoming.
     
  14. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    *takes breath*

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    *falls off chair*

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  15. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Such maniacal laughter suggests emotional instability. Obviously delusional denial of reality is taking its toll on you.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul225.html

    http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/commentary.asp?record_id=285

    http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1108

    http://news.com.com/2010-1028-5150325.html?tag=nefd_acpro

    Is more indication necessary of the direction we are being taken in by those desperate to entrench and perpetuate their power and control (let alone wholesale bankruptcy of the nation for obscene personal and corporate gain) or does you smug self assured "we are immune to tyranny" mentality require waiting until your neighbours, friends, perhaps even loved ones are actually being rounded up?

    This irresponsible dismissal of the numerous compelling examples (and indeed legislative Acts) of unrestrained invasive powers, harrassment and listing of dissidents and dissident groups and other direct violations of Constitutional guarantees by Washington only highlights the cognitive disconnect from which the majority of present day sheeple suffer.

    Just keep waiting for all the mechanisms to be fully instituted, whilst mocking those attempting to shake you out of your malaise, and then stun us by expressing just how shocked you are that such betrayal of our most fundamental notions of liberty could have been brought about by those sworn to uphold those liberties.

    The willfully blindness you, like so many others, evince today will be the indictment of your passive complicity in helping bring it to pass.
     
  16. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    No, i just found it very funny .. equating a stylised poster with a looming 'Police State'. I personaly think people that 'fear' a Police state secretly wish it to pass, justifying endless refrences to true police states and outdated concepts such as 'Big Brother'. Speed cameras and cameras catching drunks throwing up outside night clubs, does not concern me at all. The amount of crime it solves or helps as evidence

    http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/tm_objectid=15454079&method=full&siteid=50002&headline=cctv-traps-rapist-name_page.html

    makes me grateful someone is out there watching. If i wish to view any film that any camera in the public domain, under freedom of information i can quiet easily do that.

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    And you carry on about a nation gripped with a 'Fear' perpetuated by the Goverment and there neo-con lackeys. You do a very good job of executing the 'Fear factor'. Neither realy puts any kind of fear into me.

    Yes all highlighted by yourself and others like you. Fair and balanced of course.

    http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/ Another E.g of the state taking away my liberty to drive while under the influence of alcohol.. the bastards .

    I was only laughing (like i said) about making any kind of conection, your rhetoric pads out this notion very well.

    A healthy balance between your POV and my POV will create a reasonable future .
     
  17. LickHERish

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    Nice apples and oranges comparisons you make. Classic aversion to the more relevant issues raised by the articles presented to you in my previous post.

    Sadly your POV, aka the populist head in the sand bandwagon, offers only apathetic accord for abuse of power; leaving the next generation to suffer for its lack of vigilance and civic duty.
     
  18. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    http://www.new-enlightenment.com/police_state.htm

    If you can read this and say your not falling off your chair with laughter, i can't hope to satisfy your needs for my 'enlightenment'. I say it is funny, but seriously this stuff is just ridiculous. You have to admit ?.

    We have Neighbourhood watch over here as i am sure your aware.http://www.neighbourhoodwatch.net/ . If i have a neighbour who is making a racket at 3am and i inform the police, this is not deemed 'good' , right ? . If i see someone trying to enter a neighbours house this should be ignored ?. Quite rightly if i went to the police and said Mr X is having a affair with Mrs Y they would tell me to go home and stop wasting police time. How can you (and i am sure you can) construde a reasonable arguement against 'neighbourhood watch' .

    If we were heading for a real police state we would be there by now. The ever looming slippery slope towards a police state, started when bush got into office and will hopefuly end when he leaves, it realy is quite pathetic realy. Dislike a goverment all you like, but come on creating these kind of cliched fantasies is as 'sheepish' as anything i could ever trot out.
     
  19. LickHERish

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    If you think the Dept of Homeland Security, The TSA, the REAL ID Act and countless other mechanisms created in the course of this administration's tenure will suddenly vanish in 2008, then again you live in a world of delusion.

    The drivel you cite in no way counters the points raised in the links I provided. In many ways we ARE already there. The straightjacket on true dissenting opinion in the US is quite demonstrably in evidence and has been since 911. Civil rights groups have been and are being targetted and harrassed, US citizens being prosecuted under ill defined "anti-terrorism" measures and denied the right to review the supposed evidence against them (against all Constitutional guarantees of due process), and more.

    Its truly sad that you will look for any snippet you can find to pretend its all a storm in a teacup, unfortunately the measures being instituted and the powers being extended to and gleefully assumed by federal and state authorities will remain and worsen.
     
  20. somethingwitty

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    matthew you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You're in Britain for shits sake.

    I don't even know what to say, you're just an ass.
     
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