The "Wake Up" Calling In Psychedelic Exploration

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  1. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I have read so many times lately about psilocybin and had reacted that the Shulgin research into alternatives to contemporary psychedelic medicine was the smarter choice.

    What I didn't remember was the "Wake Up" calling!

    I didn't have this with MDMA, which Shulgin had researched. But with the 2C compounds I initially recommended I remember a very distinct and strong desire to help others "wake up" to what life and the world were all about, as though they were oblivious.

    I remember it being really weird to try and explain in the days that followed. I wouldn't say it was a loss of control like you maybe find with a 'bath salts' story, but it was a compulsory need that made me want to awaken friends and others in the world.

    The reason it gives me pause at all is that it sounds so weird! I think that I was too young to make sense of what I was experiencing, and that is why I put it into those words and formed those thoughts.

    In review, I'm not sure I would put someone up to that. I think I mischaracterized something 'manic' as something positive.

    I don't know why, but I wonder about any psychoactive psychiatric process.

    In the 1960s I feel like there may have been a similar phenomenon. "Turn on, tune in, drop out" was coined by Timothy Leary, and reads a little like an obscene directive challenging authority in the lives of those in transformative states.

    I've had a lot of experience with psychedelics and for me it's not attractive anymore. I remember being scared a lot of those times too, and the only time that stood out as really different was the 2C time. Thinking back on how it took control of my desire to communicate is reason for caution.
     
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    And antenna brain!

    What do I mean? I think there is a trust problem in your chemistry that allows your brain to process information that you would ordinarily be filtering out! =-)

    No. That isn't totally true.

    The way your brain operates under optimal circumstances (meaning without intervention, or in other words without some social dilemma, an outside pressure, a nudge from above, etc.) is different than 'antenna brain'.

    In an 'abridged mental wellness' scenario like mine there are things that make a psychedelic an unlikely choice. Why?

    When there is interference during a psychedelic experience, the drug leads the mind to misunderstand the appropriate level of importance.

    This level of importance is perhaps pleasant or perhaps informative! in that it can augment focus.

    But with the nudge in play, it augments a fight or flight scenario.

    "That as a constant. 0_0"

    No.

    But anyway, antenna brain can be true. Imagine taking acid and going to a horror movie. Well, someone likely tried that. It might operate a little like a 'bath salts' story. are bath salts a hallucinogen or a stimulant? - Google Search

    Your mind is a tool and some of its uses can be more efficient with a psychedelic to enhance certain things that aren't ordinarily foremost in your mental workflow.

    What I think is glazed over when this is discussed in terms of mental health is that it can be completely countertherapeutic too. Imagjne a nightmare that isn't going to stop for another hour.

    A bad trip can be a little like a traffic jam on the freeway such that it isn't going to stop anytime soon. Imagine that with the proverbial volume on blast. And you can't turn it down?

    Thta.

    No, not at all.

    What I learned is you might (I say might because I haven't tried it myself) be able to help yourself change the subject. Your friends can calm you down too, but that isn't always available.

    Though you could plan such. In Oregon? Yeah.

    In a clinical setting, the dosage is likely small enough that a horrendous, long lasting, fiendishly and hopelessly frightening, unending nightmare is less likely.

    And it's a little like Las Vegas on the streets; the streets of Portland apparently.

    What I mean is it can be hit and miss as for good trip/bad trip. Or there could be a band of straight edge kids who make their purpose to interrupt Portland.

    I'm sober now. I don't condone this. I fight for a solid transparency, and truth be told, a better warning about this. It can be frightening enough to warrant extreme concern and also a cautionary discussion to accompany the latest psychiatric trend opinion piece.
     
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