the veil of reality

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  1. inthelibrary

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    are humans so dense they cannot see past the reality we are fed?
     
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  2. Astray

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    Perhaps this realm (most call reality) is so dense, that we humans have trouble seeing the finer greater reality.
     
  3. guerillabedlam

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    Humans biologically evolved to function within certain environmental parameters. Through a fortuitous expansion in intelligence and ability for abstraction, we've broadened those parameters to far surpass any other animal outside perhaps insects and microbes.

    Humans are social beings and some have suggested that in culture, we emulate a lot of what nature is doing and pass on non-genetic information that essentially serves to replicate itself, this is the concept of memes.


    In both instances, there are probably some aspects of reality that "we are fed" in which we have a better ability in distinguishing than others.
     
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    Hello. You are in the library too? Where are you?
     
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    Evolution is a lie.
     
  6. storch

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    People tend to hold the idea that the more solid something is, the more real it is. This is backward, and appeals only to the ego. The belief that denseness equals reality is a block to spiritual attainment. Not that anything needs to be attained; like truth, attainment is neither easy nor hard. It simply is. Truth is not something hidden which needs to be found. Remove the lies, and all that is left is the truth; you can't miss it. The only block to truth is the strength of the grip with which one holds the lies. Any search for truth is actually a search for the lies and the way to come out from behind them.
     
  7. Running Horse

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    Somehow I think this shit should probably have been in the philosophy & religion area.......

    Oh well......

    The idea that there must be something beyond reality is just a means by which people just try & pretend they have no responsibility for what does exist. It's all horseshit get over it & just live life in touch with nature like you were meant to
     
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    If reality is not stranger than fiction, then I know who to blame.
     
  9. Astray

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    That may be true for some. For others, the responsibilty is far greater than just live life in touch with nature.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

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    For most people, absolutely. Most people are incapable of thinking for themselves and instead rely on "experts" to tell them what to think.

    The physical world as we perceive it is not even real as quantum physics has proven.
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    Given the ambiguity of the OP, this is an excellent response.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

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    The idea there isn't something beyond the reality we perceive with our five senses is just ignorant and close-minded.
     
  13. tumbling.dice

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    Even if there is some ultimate 'reality' it will be forever beyond our grasp. The universe we perceive is the interpretation our brain constructs from the sensations it gets from our five senses; we see, feel, etc. only the smallest fraction of what is out there. We can build devices that go a long way towards filling the gaps in our perceptions but the information they collect still must be filtered through those same five senses and then interpreted by the same old human brain. We might as well treat our perceptions as reality since it is the only one we will ever know.
     
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  14. Astray

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    Others are aware of, and even seen, the spiritual aspect of the human.
     
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    When you die, you are giving up the ghost. But the body is the ghost.
     
  16. guerillabedlam

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    Obviously reality can be experienced in a myriad of different ways, many birds have more cone receptors than humans allowing for a wider range of color processing, bats use echolocation, snakes sense movement via heat, etc.

    All that aside, unless someone is going to bat for philosophical idealism and/or the supernatural, I'm not sure what more there can be to reality other than the inseparable intersection of one's Consciousness and their senses.
     
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    i don't know, probably? to get a legitimate answer, you will probably need to define "the reality we are fed."

    if you read the other library thread that was recently active here, you would know that he's a homeless or mentally ill person hanging out on one of the comfy chairs.
     
  19. Can you think of a better way to behave than to be obsessed with sex and material possessions?
     
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    We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, dont even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

    Seemed like an appropriate thread for a Terrence Mckenna quote
     
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