The truth about LSA extraction

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  1. ancient powers

    ancient powers Member

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    This is the real deal.

    4-32 HBWR's or 100 to 800 MGs (comparable to 1-8 hits of of LSD)
    standard lemon juice in the fruits and vegetable section or juice a damn lemon
    Peppermint oil (optional) for LSH conversion. (theoretical)
    reusable coffee filter.
    jar or drinking glass.
    some type of juice, Kool aid or sugar water
    coffee grinder

    Step 1: Get your seeds http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductUID=1832&ProductCode=HHB-50 Don't forget to let them know you want the hawaiian strain not the ghana.

    Step 2: Grind your seeds in the coffee grinder till they are powdered. Listen for the sound of the grinder. I shake the grinder as it grinds, to get all the seeds grinded.

    Step 3: If using HBWR's. Add enough lemon juice to cover and a little more to keep the powder liquified after powder absorbs the moisture. The ciric acid in the lemon juice coverts the basic LSA alkaloids in to a more water soluble, food safe citric salt form. If Using MG's your gonna need to make a solution of 1 part lemon juice to 2 parts distilled water. Add Enough solution to fill a couple inches above the seed powder. You may need to add more solution as your powder absorbs the moisture. Make sure you get it soupy. Add a few drops of peppermint oil to your soaking seed solution to convert your LSA citric salts into LSH citric salts

    Step 4: Shake or stir the solution frequently and let soak for 30min.

    Step 5: If using HBWR's. Add a few ounces of juice or sugar water. If using MG's just strain. You want enough juice to take a decent shot with. to little and it will be bitter. To much and you will have to drink more liquid then you have to, adding to the extention of unwanted tastes. If Using MG's you should add sugar to the solution after you strain it to make it into a lemon aid.

    Step 6: Shake or stir the solution then pour through a reusable coffee filter. You will need to stir and scrape the bottom of the filter to allow the juice to filter through. the powder tends to clog the filter taking longer to filter out. Discard seed mush when filtered and drink up. If using MG's. You will need to strain through a baking strainer (the metal screen type you use to sift flour. Then strain through the reusable coffee filter.)

    This is the most effective and simplest of all the organic natural psychedelics to produce. I have used 16 seeds and am graduating up to 20 next trip. This extraction is effective, clean, safe and guaranteed.

    WARNING!!!: DO NOT MIX LSA/LSH WITH ALCOHOL. THE DEHYDRATION OF THE LSA/LSH, POISON/MEDICINE CAUSES A NEGATIVE REACTION WITH THE DEHYDRATING QUALITIES OF THE ALCOHOL. LEADING TO EXCESSIVE VOMITING IN DISCHARGE OF THE ALCOHOL AND INGESTED LSA/LSH.

    *LSH (d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide) theoretically produces a more visual response.
     
  2. Geneity

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    And you don't get horrible violent puking nausea from this? That's what water extractions do to me.
     
  3. ancient powers

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    none! I believe the citric acid dissolves the nauseating effects.
     
  4. Geneity

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    I'll have to give this a shot. What's this taste like? Where can peppermint oil be found?
     
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    It tastes like the juice you use. It tastes better than a shot of liquor. It is the best tasting of the psychedelic kitchen recipes. The peppermint oil can be found in your local health food store or herbal store. Please feel free to write us about the next adventure inside your mind! e
     
  6. Geneity

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    Oh I'd be happy to. I usually post trip reports here.

    Thats awesome. Is it about a shots worth with like a whole packet of kool aid? Sounds like insane.
     
  7. ancient powers

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    Good luck bretheren! Welcome to the truth! e!
     
  8. stalk

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    well this is just too damn interesting.
     
  9. d4wt

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    the shroomery at one point had a nicely detailed thread on a BHO extract and lsh conversion. i believe the dose was actually around 1-2ml and quite comparable to lsd w/ no bodyload.
     
  10. Geneity

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    I tried this. It didn't save me nausea and it didn't work (that was because the extraction was so fucking impossible). I used RealLemon juice, almost an entire bottle and the mush soaked up every last drop. Eventually I was forced to use lemonade to get the shit to actually stay a soup. At that point the stuff was literally like mud and extracting through any sort of non-reusable filter was beyond impossible. Adding more liquid just made things more of a mess. It wouldn't strain by itself, I had to push it. I ended up breaking coffee filters and getting it all over the place. No sort of filter worked.

    What little liquid I was able to salvage only succeeded in making me nauseous, tired, and pissed off.

    I have NEVER run into such a pain in the ass drug. Even CWE is a pain in the ass because of how hard the fuckers are to strain.
     
  11. TheEnd808

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    ^If what your saying is true, then it seems like this extraction method is more trouble than its worth. I don't see whats wrong with just crushing up the seeds, dumping them in a jar of juice, shake/stir for a half hour, then filter them through a coffee filter into a drinking glass. From what I understand, the citrus elements in the juice should help ease the nasuea, and you don't have to go through all the extra steps with peppermint oil and lemons. It doesn't have to taste like a tropical drink, just has to be bearable enough to get down into your stomach.
     
  12. Geneity

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    Peppermint oil is for theoretical conversion into LSH (d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide), not for taste. I assume he used citric acid to extract to fight the nausea.

    Every single extraction method I've ever tried on these seeds give me nausea and vomiting when it actually DOES work (which was ONCE). CWE gives me extreme nausea for 20-30 minutes before I'm forced to puke violently.

    It's just not worth it, and I'm not touching the seeds again until I get some fucking everclear and a metal mesh, reusable coffee filter. It just feels like the more extractions I try the more difficult and hopeless it gets.
     
  13. TheEnd808

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    That sucks, but you probably just have a natural tolerance to it. I'd say for about 75% of the people who have reported their experience (that I've heard), a simple water extraction works perfectly fine, with moderate (not overwhelming) to no nausea. Generally, its the people who take the seeds out of the pack, and just start eating them that get the worst side effects. But yeah, if you can't do something to fight the side effects I wouldn't even bother with LSA if I were you.

    Edit:And another thing I've never understood is why people use alcohol in their extraction methods sometimes. Can someone shed some light on this? It seems to be so much uneccesary work just to extract a chemical from some seeds. Is there any benefit to using the alcohol method at all?
     
  14. Geneity

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    Yes, to get the LSAs out without getting the toxins out as well, as a CWE does. Glycocides are the reason for nausea. And whenever I try I used around 800 seeds. That could also be a factor in why I get so sick. But other people use that amount and suffer no ill effects. It's infuriating. Maybe it's something they're eating....

    I don't think I have a tolerance to any psychedelic (natural). I don't have a natural tolerance to LSD so I assume it's the same for LSAs. I'm just unlucky I guess.
     
  15. ancient powers

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    I tried several hundred times before i got it right. if there is that much seed powder. use 1 part lemon juice 2 parts distilled water as a solution to soak your seeds in fo 30 min. strain through your metal screen strainer then strain through the REUSABLE coffee filter. regular paper filters will absorb your LSA and in all reality is a wasted effort.
     
  16. Geneity

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    That felt mean. I hope it wasn't meant to be. Morning Glories are a pain in the ass to strain. Anyone who's done it knows that.

    I'd give this another shot but nothing seems to save me from the nausea.

    The only reason I'm even still fighting the good fight is because LSAs are so very fun.
     
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    I never use morning glories cause there is so much seed. So In reality the success of a MG LSA extraction is unknown to me. This works perfect with the HBWR's. I edited the original post to cater to MG users like yourself. This was meant to be a learning experience. Trying using the modified version next time with your MGs. Peace. e
     
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    [​IMG]

    Use a plastic ziplock like bag as a filter...
     

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