The right wing (republican party) is breakable into three groups

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Inquiring-Mind, Jun 19, 2006.

  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    1. The religious zealots, they consist the majority of the right wing.

    2. The imperialists, who want to expand corporate power and just creat new markets.

    3. The tax/business fanatics, who just want to lower taxes and reduce regulations.

    What will break this unity?
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    As if the Democratic Party is any different? I am not saying it's the same as the Republican Party in terms of what its followers believe (most of which don't have a clue), but it's all controlled by the same people working for the same interests. Whether there is a Democrat or Republican in office, the agenda always remains the same. So what's the point in talking about one party when the whole system is controlled? People seem happy to avoid looking at the big picture. They would rather be controlled by the bullshit the media spews at them. Anyone who conforms to this bogus Left/Right, Democrat/Republican nonsense doesn't have a freakin' clue about politics. Period.
  3. zeppelin kid

    zeppelin kid Member

    Theres really no difference between democrats or republicans. At least nowadays.
  4. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator


    Do you still ‘know’ about the ‘Zionist Satanist’ conspiracy and that we are in a fight between the “forces of darkness” and the forces of light?

    But since this is a politics forum not a religious one can you tell me

    What are people to do politically to reduce the power or even defeat ‘the conspiracy’?

    What kind of political policies would you follow to do it?

    What would the political system be like after ‘the conspiracy’?


    You are on record as saying that you think the Republicans are too left wing and the only political policies you have praised here are those of right wing libertarianism.

    So are you claiming you are not right wing in your viewpoint?


    By the way if you say you have already answered any these questions please tell me where because I’ve read nearly all your political posts and so far you haven’t, but still I could have missed it.
  5. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

    please god, don't turn this into another "lets ignore the topic post and make fun of pressed_rat instead" thread....

    Next someone will type something about the lizards, alex jones, the zionists and hitler. Then rat will type something about... well... lizards, alex jones, the zionists and hitler....

    It's just really, really, old by now isn't it?
  6. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

    Convince the zealots that imperialism is antixtian.

    Convince the imperialists that the zealots make them look weak/crazy.

    Convince the businessmen that the imperialists are bad for business in the long term.

    That's a start at least
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Stop always reading from the same script. Idiot.
  8. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    I never said it was.
  9. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

    I agree with the philosophy of group 3. Lower taxes are good and regulations suck. This is supposed to be a free nation, the government shouldn't be taking your money and dictating what you can or can't do.

    Unfortunately, you don't find this way of thinking in either party anymore.
  10. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    Reasonable taxes and regulations are necessary for a functioning society.

    Group 3 needs to find a new party because every time they vote Republican they strengthen the religious right.
  11. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Sorry Rat but this happens to be important.

    I’m a leftie I make no secret of it and am open and honest in telling people that my views come from a left wing perspective.

    One of the big issues raised in this forum is the difficulty of biased sources claiming that they are giving a fair and balanced view of the issues.

    I’ve said many times that to me the Democrats and Republicans are both right wing party’s, but it is clear from things he has said that to Rat they are for him both LEFT WING.

    The problem is that he claims that he is giving this view not from a left or right wing viewpoint but from some imagined third perspective.

    He claims that left wing politics is just a construct of ‘the conspiracy’ and that mainstream right wing parties are under the control of ‘the conspiracy’.

    However the few times he has let slip his political views and the type of policies he would like followed they have all been right wing libertarian in nature.


    So just as I would warn people that FOX news is biased while claiming not to be I just like to remind people once and awhile that RAT is biased while claiming not to be.

    PS If Rat wishes to prove me wrong and actually discuss his political views the Rat debate thread is still open.
  12. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

    Inquiring-mind, I disagree with your 1st point but agree with your 2nd. America did just fine prior to 1913 when there was no income tax (government was mostly funded by tariffs), since 1913 the tax has steadily increased and is now accompanied by both state and local income taxes, so that the people are effectively being taxed 3 times on the same money. As for regulations, it's been my experience that they prevent functioning society rather than cause it, you can barely do anything in the U.S. without having to get a government permit to do it. That's not a free society and it's not what the Founding Fathers had in mind.

    As for your 2nd point, I agree that the republican party is not the group you want associate with if you're fighting for lower taxes and less regulation. The party simply doesn't embrace these ideals (perhaps at one time they did, but they certainly don't anymore) sure, there's the Bush tax cut, but that was mostly just for rich people.

    And like you said, the religious wing does have alot of power within the party and they tend to reject libertarian ideals, preferring a more theocratic form of government instead.
  13. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

    Lol Balbus, good questions and all or whatever i guess...but the left and the right being virtually the same is not a conspiracy, anyone with half a brain knows politicians from both sides are complete assholes who are just looking out for themselves and the people who pay them off.
  14. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Lol Balbus, good questions and all or whatever i guess...but the left and the right being virtually the same is not a conspiracy, anyone with half a brain knows politicians from both sides are complete assholes who are just looking out for themselves and the people who pay them off.



    Sorry Angel but don’t you get it

    You are in a politics forum, you must be interested in politics and by posting here you are involved in politics that makes you a politician. ("someone interested and involved in politics" Concise Oxford Dictionary)

    So are you calling yourself an asshole?


    As to right wing ideas and left wing ideas being the same, can you prove it? I mean are you saying right wing libertarianism is exactly the same as socialism?


    What is clear so far is that Rat who seems to hold right wing views is clearly not being open and honest about them while so far all those with left wing views have been.


  15. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Don't forget group 4--the little parrots who spout republican bullshit in here because mommy and daddy "said so".

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