The Right Not To Be Pregnant

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by green faerie, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. green faerie

    green faerie m L e

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    is apparently only a privilege, to be dispensed at the discretion of your doctor. I think every woman should read this article, it really pissed me off.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19190916/
     
  2. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    Yeah thats bullshit. Religion should not interfere with your job, especially when its caring for other people. Being a closed-minded asshole is against my religion so they can fuck off. Him being a man doesn't even know what its like to be in that kind of situation... nobody wants a rapist's baby.. well I wouldn't at least. I'm glad she got the morning after pill though.
     
  3. fricknfrack

    fricknfrack Member

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    omgod thats terrible . What goes on at home stays at home ehat goes on at work stays at work
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    These doctors need to be documented and when the children are born, they need to support them.

    You men want these children born, then someone has to be responsible for them, more then the woman that has been raped.

    You think your dick and sperm are so important than belly up and take the responsibility. If you don't wish to be responsible then back off, and let the women that deal with your crud make their own decisions.
     
  5. Bumble

    Bumble Senior Member

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    oh my goodness! That is terrible! I think I would have lost my cool on that doctor. I am sure some of our tax money built that hospital or even goes towards his salary, so he should lose his job for denying services based on religion! I am glad that she was coherent enough to find a different doctor to help her out.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    That's bullshit and promotes the male frame of mind. If you want to dip dick be prepared to support your offspring. Or allow women an alternative.
     
  7. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Would you force a surgeon to perform abortions if he was pro-life?
     
  8. Bumble

    Bumble Senior Member

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    it doesn't matter what a doctor believes is right or wrong, rather it's the patient's CHOICE!
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    He shouldn't be in the business, if he can't deal with the logistics. Why expect a woman to deal with an unwanted birth, and give a physician a pass?
     
  10. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    I like that!! That actually makes a WHOLE LOT of fucking sense.

    Religion is a personal thing. Keep it to yourself. Not everyone believes what you do. These things are just common sense.
     
  11. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    So you'd essentially force a person to do what he considers baby-murder?

    Some belief in freedom.
     
  12. imaginepeace

    imaginepeace Livin' the Dream

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    There are stories of pharmacies not filling the morning after pill, and even some not filling birthcontrol prescriptions. Talk about ridiculous. Pick a diffrent job if you are ready to handel everything you have to do.
     
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    So in essence you would force a woman to carry for nine months in her body a baby she had no say in creating and then support it until it reached eighteen years of age? That's really a cry for freedom also.
     
  14. MikeE

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    I expect cops to enforce laws they disagree with. If you don't want to bust little old ladies for growing their own medicine, don't join the DEA.

    A similar logic applies to health care providers.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Precisely!
     
  16. Unmotivated

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    Oh sweet irony...I should make that my signature.


    She needs to find a new doctor and hopefully get a morning after pill or eventually an abortion if it is to late. Asking someone to go against what they believe in is a restriction of freedom as well as not allowing Boyer to get a emergency contriceptive or day-after pill. It is odd though to see a relegious man in medicine. Is seperation of church and medicine a law?

    Anywho she, and alot others will now know to ask their doctors about their ethics, and if anyone is even concerned about Boyer, I am sure she will be ok.
     
  17. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I believe you two are actually in agreement. I think she is saying leave the morality at the door and do the job you signed on for.

    My greatest problem with the story is the doc refusing to refer the patient elsewhere.
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  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am not really clear on what exactly Fricknfrack wants to stay confidential, are you? Actually his comment doesn't make a lot of sense.
     
  19. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    :rolleyes:

    I'm not against abortion. I just think the notion of somehow forcing people to perform it is more than slightly ridiculous.

    And I'd draw this line far enough that I think forcing people to dole out perscriptions for what they could potentially consider an immoral (ie: babykilling) drug is out of line.

    Find another doctor if you want to, but forcing people to perform acts they don't believe like that violates some fundamental freedoms.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Babykilling....does that conjure up little pictures for all of you. Want to talk fundamental freedoms, what happens in an individual's body to me constitutes freedom and control for that individual. When men carry children then women should listen to their views on abortion. Until then they are just sperm donors. And many times irresponsible ones.

    If a person goes to a pharmacy and has a prescription, I don't expect a pharmacist to overwrite my doctors motives, because he's a baptist.
     

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