The real reason why north korea is hostel towards america!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gravity, Jul 7, 2006.

  1. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    Do you hate liars? sure you do who doesn't.

    The facts, America lied about replacing north koreas Yongbyon nuclear reactors with LWR plants. America never keept up to their end of the bargain signed in the Agreed Framework. America also agreed to delever transitional oil supplies & fund money, But the funds were not always the sufficient amount agreed upon and transitional oil supplies were delivered late alot.

    President Bill Clinton's officials on October 21, 1994 signed the agreement only becuase they believed the north korean nuclear power project would collapse before completion.

    And on January 10, 2003 korea withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    Though the Two nuclear power plants have not been restarted, they could produce enough weapons-grade plutonium to produce several nuclear weapons per year. America's new sus-picion was that korea has underground enriched uranium programs in effect todate. The U.S. is now advocating that north korea dismantle all nuclear facilities rather than just specific plants as in the agreed framework.

    Todate, the bush administration has cut off one on one diplomatic relations created by the clinton adminstration and also accused north korea of violating the vitality of the Agreed Framework by developing a secret uranium program which the U.S. believed would circumvent the agreement.

    North korea proposed america agree to a non-aggression treaty and the bush administration countered by declaring North Korea apart of the "Axis of Evil" along with Iraq and Iran.

    There you have it, I have brought people THE TRUTH once again.
     
  2. zeppelin kid

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    I wouldn't say you have the 100 percent truth of it all because I don't believe anyone has 100 percent truth out of anything. But you do have it correct for the most part.
     
  3. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Plus America is attitude, remember treat people like you wanna be treated. America responds to NK with aggression, NK is likely to do the same. America responds to NK with love and diplomacy, Nk is likely to do the same. The are humans after all, and they will respond and act on how they are treated and approached.
     
  4. zeppelin kid

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    I don't think respect has anything to do with the current situation. Respect is usually the last thing that has to do with it.
     
  5. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    It has something to do with it, Nk feels ignored and isolated.
     
  6. zeppelin kid

    zeppelin kid Member

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    Well of course North Korea feels isolated and ignored because thats exactly what they are, a rogue nation.
     
  7. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    You are missing the point, maybe if the concerned nations approach differently than NK will response differentially.
     
  8. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    The actual "rogue" nations are those using active and observable force to destroy and subjugate other sovereign nations. Be very careful about adopting and parroting the doublespeak of reigning criminals in Washington and their media mouthpieces.

    NK may be an "isolated" nation, but it is not and has not attacked nor presented any viable threat of attack to its neighbours (unlike the US, UK, and other allegedly "democratic" and "freedom loving" western powers) for more than half a century. Thus the term "rogue" is merely more political doublespeak for a nation/government which refuses to bow and subjugate itself, its citizens and its land/resources to the dictats and grasping avarice of our US/European multinational corporations.
     
  9. zeppelin kid

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    A nation that is not willing to bow and subjugate itself is now considered a rogue nation. Thats life for ya.
     
  10. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    That is life for you, you accept defeat most do not.
     
  11. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Sorry: The North has a huge army poised on the border with The South with its Capital, Seoul, targeted by thousands of artilery.

    This prick is counterfiting our money, selling weapons to whomever. dealing in drugs and threatening The US & Japan. He deserves a spanking !

    Would like to see a free and united Korea.
     
  12. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    I suggest you review our dealings and the longstanding disposition of hostility toward North Korea by the USA (which has had a considerable force presence also based in S. Korea and HAS invaded N. Korea previously). Ass to that the continuous duplicity of successive US administrations in brokering agreements only to completely fail to hold up our end of the deal.

    Now with the hardliner militant neocon globalist/neo-colonialist warmongers in control of all branches of the government in Washington, NK is even more justified in not trusting their intentions, especially as it is the US/UK/Israel who have been repeatedly demonstrating acts of transnational military aggression against other nations and zero accountability to either international law or even US constitutional law.

    Prick or not, the US has no moral or legal legitimacy in the face of its own presumed right to attack other sovereign nations - which did not nor could not attack it - to point a finger at anyone else, least of NK, with whom (I again reiterate) we have dishonoured every negotiated deal we made.

    Selling weapons? I suggest you go inform yourself as to which nation outsells all other nations in global arms sales and most of those to known unstable and despotic governments. Clue for you, it begins with a U and ends with an A. We are also the foremost trainer of subversive terrorist organisations via both the CIA and the School of the Americas and heavily finance some of the most barbaric right wing guerrila groups throughout Latin America, Africa and South East Asia.

    No, son, 'ol Kim can't hold a candle to Washington in the competition for corruption, illegal war of aggression (more than 20 unilateralist acts of aggression against other sovereign nations in the past 50 years, including NK).

    That is for Korean peoples both North and South to work out for themselves and not our right to interfere with. In fact, our continue interference and military occupation of the South has only prolonged the separation and defensive buildups of arms. Its all part of the globalist design to keep the arms markets constantly growing and to ensure that we have one or more major conflicts every decade to keep the arms manufacturers well financed.

    Its a corrupt and vicious arrangment concerning which you are apparently completely uninformed.
     
  13. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    When two irresponsible nations have nukes, does it matter which is worse?

    "They want to invade us" is a legitimate reason to invade them.

    Wait a minute, lets try that again.

    "We want to invade them" is a legitimate reason to be invaded.

    No, that doesn't work either.

    "They're bad, we're good" is a legitimate reason to kill them.

    No...????

    "We're us. They're bad"

    (Why do the worlds nuclear powers sound like bratty children on a playground?)
     
  14. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Because that's exactly what they are when you boil it down to the very simple home truths we repeatedly teach try to teach our children. The shame is that when nations assume the bully role, thousands upon thousands suffer and die as a result.

    One reason the nuremberg Principles stated clearly and unequivocably the characteristics of recognisable war crime and crimes against humanity, both of which Washington/London and Tel Aviv are guilty of many times over from Afghanistan to Iraq and now to Lebannon.

    Yet the misinformed masses internalise the neocon lies and propaganda as expected of the sheeple and refuse to decry the true criminality at the head of our own nations.

    Ever so interesting that Russian invasion of Afghanistan, Chinese invasion of Tibet, Iraq invasion of Kuwait, etc. all are readily decreid as crimes to be stopped, but when we perpetrate exactly the same militant interventionism, all that need be repeated are token soundbites such as "liberation" "democratisation", etc. and the public hops right on the smug self-justified bandwagon and disregards consistency of principle altogether.

    The "rule of law" is a rule for all or none.
     
  15. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Sorry, Again


    Equating The U.S. with North Korea is just un-intelectual. Nilihism.

    A discerning person will see the diference between the two states.

    The Korean people deserve a unified country not one torn asunder by a cold war back room deal.
     
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