The problem of intolerance in the rainbow family

Discussion in 'Rainbow Family' started by Montreal-Mark, Nov 13, 2010.

  1. Montreal-Mark

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    I'm not going to sight particular people or events. But I am just going to say this is based on personal perceptions and experiences.

    I have found the family very intolerant. (Rainbow in france being the most intolerant)

    Now I'm not advocating the use of drugs or anything like that. But it does appear that the many members of the family want to practice a form of "peace and love" based on *ahem* baptist purtianism. I've been to gatherings where a cup of coffee will get you condemed because of the cafine in it.

    And the rules on dogs and animals at the gatherings is also a form of intolerance. Several years ago, I watched a sister at a rainbow gathering in France. She came all the way from Finland with her dog and was asked to leave. The problem ??? She was blind. The dog was her eyes and as she cried loudly in mad, "I can not pee without my dog." Despite having flowen from the other side of the atlantic, I also left when she did.

    I have also watched many membres of the rainbow family mock and ridicule the native north american indiens. For many there is only the Soux and Navajo amerindiens. But there are many more than that. And many tribes use "natural drugs" or "sacred drugs" in their ceremonies. It would not be so bad but they are condemed for using these substances while at the same time many of the family uses elements of native cultures in their teachings and conversations.

    So I left the Rainbow 2 years ago. Because this is what I believe.

    1) Love is Free and accepting. Anything less than that it is not love.

    2)You shoud love even the most addicted drug addict. You can love them, accept them, be there for them when they need a friend. And you can do this without supporting their drug problems. It is one thing to hug a drug addict but it is another thing to give them money or more excuses for thier problems

    3) Everyone regardless of language has their own culture and were raised in their own unique enviroment. Respect it these differences and try to learn them in context before attempting to use them purposes. Anything less is an insult.

    4) All animals are equal on this planet. Including dogs at the gathering. Let them come and let the handicap that need them come too. Do not punish the animals by excluding them. The animal does not now how to conform to our rules. Instead when there is a problem, ask or punish the person that takes responsibity for the animal to make certain it conducts itself appropriately.

    5) Finally,
    Love everyone regardless of what they are, do, or might say.
     
  2. thedope

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    No organization, or friend for that matter, can fulfill our idealistic vision of how things should be. The only peace we ever know however, is the peace we share.
     
  3. Montreal-Mark

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    It has nothing about being idealistic. But it has everything to do with

    Just let it go.
    Life is shit. And even if we managed to change that. That change would only be temporary. Everything, even in a perfect world, would only once again become, "shit."
     
  4. thedope

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    Well that's just shitty
     
  5. Montreal-Mark

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    Yes.
    So let it go and just be nice to each other.

    Kiss your neighbour
    Pet a dog
    Share a meal with someone
    Make love to a friend.

    Just let go of the shit and just live your life in a way that one day you might die.
     
  6. deleted

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    I once had a blog but it was so mean and directed at the rainbows I took it down..

    I felt like I was empowering them. Fuck it, run in the woods and piss up stream for all I care, I dont give a F-n-nut...

    Hugs ..

    Love is my badge.. :love:
     
  7. Montreal-Mark

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    I have noticed that many of the rainbows love to be condemed.
     
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    I wonder how intoxicating it would be, with no drugs at all.. :sunny:
     
  9. Montreal-Mark

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    Drugs or no drugs.

    Everyone has their own path. Some people have it more difficult.

    You just got to accept and love everyone for what they are.

    In life you have to even kiss the wart faced man. Because there is a humanbeing behind all those scars needing the same things we all need.
     
  10. thedope

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    Hyper infectious kissing?
     
  11. hjaystone

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    how could you ever leave anything you can't really join but in your mind anyways? you are leaving yourself? cool, no prob, we all leave ourselves behind as we grow.

    the europe gathering,.. sounds like a sad movie, do you ever wish you had said something, or done something? other than leave?

    oh, btw, you are posting here,... membership reinstated.

    "thank you, come again!"


    peace,
    quiet,..
     
  12. Dancing til Dawn

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    :iagree:
     
  13. Aeneas

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    I think that there needs to be more deliberation by the "elders" on the guidelines/principles of Rainbow. For instance, if a gathering has a guideline against dogs, if someone, let's say who's hitched hundreds/thousands of miles to get to the Gathering, with their dog, it is the action of antilove if someone bars entry to the Gathering as if the rule is 100% against dogs, which is unreasonable because like the poster earlier pointed out, some people need dogs because they are disabled in some way...and even if they are perfectly healthy with a dog, are you really going to turn away a Family member? This is intolerant and not behavior indicative of a higher level of consciousness. Someone should not consider themselves part of the Family if they are going to act in the same way that people in "Babylon" behave.

    Taking this dog example one step further, let's say they're at the Gathering already with a dog, how about have plans a,b,c to choose from in order to create an effective and sane response?...create a contingency plan *before* issues like this arise so that you are not on the spot trying frantically to think of what to do, because you will not act as wisely given the heat of the moment. Gather together (this is to you elders) and deliberate on issues such as this that arise at Gatherings from time to time BEFORE the gatherings. Have various plans of action/reaction so that things go smoothly. I could write an entire book on how to resolve all these various issues that are giving Rainbow a bad name but each person needs to empower themselves to be able to help the Family as a whole.

    said with love
     
  14. snowtiggernd

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    I have only read about the Rainbow Family. but I know you have council and I would have gone there and spoke of the blind lady with the dog having to leave. Seeing eye dogs are welcome everywhere as they are the eyes of the person. The family welcomes anyone with a belly button sighted or nor not. I just have a suspicion that the elders wanted to discourage people from bringing pets and loosing them at the gatherings and forgot about seeing eye dogs..
     
  15. tikoo

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    the dog tribe is here forever . one thing i note is the rainbow
    dogs get down to the root more and more , behaving as the native village dogs among the Crow . dogs gather , too .
     
  16. Dancing til Dawn

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    Rainbow isnt about exclusion no one is ment to tell you who you can and cants bring, isnt that the point of a community gathering? More fool the person letting another have power over them...
     
  17. tikoo

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    it's so sad ,
    pathos

    ain't that within the fact of having no leader . some
    will sneakily pretend to lead , but they are lonesome
    until some will follow them because
    fearfulness can be so justifiably convenient ... and from that - then
    come the rumors of worry about a people having no leader
    as a failure . the fact is we are the most alive people on
    the planet .

    we actually even tolerate those who try to manipulate ,
    and let them embarrass they-self .
     
  18. Dancing til Dawn

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    Very true..

    If the animal/person is causing trouble pooing everywhere leaving a mess, been nasty to others etc then im the first to stand up and say man this isnt cool - and if the trouble is bad and brewed into a dangerous situation then the people have a right to band together and work that problem out, sometimes if it means leaving then the person should be made aware people want them to leave. People who stay some where when they are clearly not welcome soon get the message 'hopefully' if they dont you just gotta deal with it the best way you can!
     
  19. tikoo

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    you just got to deal with it the best way you can ...

    some folks just start yelling like chickens . is there any
    hope for them ?
     
  20. Aeneas

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    We must never forget the foundation of Rainbow being open to all who wish to be a part of it. However, I don't think this equally translates into the idea that anything that a person is able to bring over to a Gathering would be suited to be within a Gathering...remember we have many children at the Gatherings whose well-being we need to be especially mindful of. I would feel very uncomfortable (to put it lightly) if someone brought an assault rifle, for instance, to a Gathering. In a perfect world with a highly elevated and evolved consciousness, yes universal statements would apply but we are living in a lesser reality with a collective consciousness that is still heavily influenced by the ego and so lesser truths dominate. What needs to be done, is meditation and very careful deliberation over certain things that someone can potentially bring (things which are usually very threatening to the well-being of others for instance) in order to realize which things are best left outside Rainbow Family Gatherings.
     

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