People often say that your pre-conceived notions of what LSD is and how it affects people, and your state of mind before and during the trip will ultimately be responsible for how you trip (good trip, bad trip, etc). So, how much control do you think your mind has over your trip? Is the trip completely reliant on your set and setting, or do you think there are some sort of dormat characteristics about ourselves that will always present themselves in the time of the consumption of LSD. This is directly related to how much control you have over your mind also. In other words, will you see/feel/experience the same things no matter what your state of mind is, and the only thing your state of mind affects is how you handle them? Or does your state of mind directly affect what you see/feel/experience?
I believe that your state of mind is affected by the state of existance in totality, the universe as it is. Set and setting does very deep :tongue: God Bless -
so you think we control every aspect about ourselves? so do you think it would be possible to take doses and have no effect at all?
Trips are affected by numerous factors. 1)Yes pre-conceived notions will effect it. If someone is scared when they try it chances are they will have anxiety during the trip. On the other hand if someone takes the lucy excited for whatever adventure they will be taken on, they are more likely to enjoy the ride. Part of the mental state that is important at the beginning is the the trust in oneself, the drug, and the realization that the next hours will be drug induced, and that they will return to reality eventually. 2)state of mind, if there are things that you are constantly worried about, this could enter your trip (id say this is more likely with shrooms though), but being in a good state of mind is auspicious of a good trip. 3) setting, well setting is and is not crucial. I mean comfort is critical, so if you are tripping somewhere you're not comfortable there will be an increase in stress/anxiety that may go away or could perpetuate into something more. One doesn't want to do something that they normally wouldn't want to do if he was sober. And doing things that bother you when your sober might not be such a good idea. (however I really like to toy with myself, psych myself out and sometimes try to scare myself) I don't know whether or not you'd see the same things if you were in a different state of mind...thats an interesting question. And it depends on the degree of differences as well I think. Every second a trip could be different; it may depend on your mind, but I don't know. I know when I trip I don't expect the things that I see, so its hard for me to believe that the state of mind causes a particular visual. However, if someone is paranoid at that current moment that paranoia may induce a visual...[one day i did think people were trying to kill me, i was scared but able to laugh, but incredibly scared. I kept seeing shadows in the yards across the street of people creeping around the hosue---so i feel like my paranoia induced those characters]--but having a good mindset allows for the trip to take you wherever and let you enjoy it... So I guess the mental state could potentially effect both the visuals and how one handles it...are we talking about long term or temporary mental states by the way? i don't know if any of this makes sense...im rambling with what I think I know
In some means, yes. In the matter of perception we have the power to change any aspect of ourselves or convince others' about practically anything in our colective consiousness. I think, that to some extent an average person wouldn't be able to overcome the "rules" of our reality and would simply sucumb to them, as almost all of us do. Then, with extreme amount of willpower and self-discipline, someone could actually be able to anull the effects of any substance or even other matters, that afects us in this world, if that is the way you meant your question. But tell me, why would anyone capable of using his mind to the fullest be taking something used for unlocking these powers, such as LSD? Remember, it's only a tool and the truth lies in oneselfs' mind, not in the world around.
I suppose I was heading toward a philosophical idea with that part of the question. As in, is what we see pre-programmed? Are we meant to see what we see, and will see what we see no matter what our state of mind is? What does LSD really do to our minds? It certainly feels as if it connects us to something higher, some sort of universal consciousness that would surely know best what lessons we are in need of. Maybe your state of mind only controls what you walk away with, and not what you see.
well, perhaps there is no "mind to the fullest". Perhaps the growth of the mind is infinite in nature, it's limitations only bounded by it's own imagination of what it can truly be. My perception of the mind and of conciousness is that it will always be expanding, always becoming more, even when speaking in terms of the collective. For instance, in this context of ideas and words we are presenting to each other right now, are we contributing, or just borrowing from what already exists? as to the rest of the post, concerning the mind controlling our perceptions and reality, the common believe nowadays is that everything we experience is a direct result of chemicals in the brain. But now I ask you, are these chemical releases and interactions causes, or effects? Thank you for allowing me to share with you all. Much love.
I believe, that all, that we experience is partly caused by chemical reactions in the brain and transformations of energy flows around and inside of the body, not only the lately quite popular scientific aproach. And as for your question, I would say, that it is actually both, life is like a circle, never ending and never stoping. Sorry for the brief response, but I'm, as to say, short on "time".
No I think when we remain affected by such mental states, we have absolutley no control at all. We may control wether or not we enjoy the trip, but as for the trip itself, I believe that is subject to the nature of the moment.
