Why? They are not used to create babies, they are used to feed them. What's so sexual about them? Yeah, their used in foreplay, but so are hands, do we have to cover hands at all times in public? No.
Biologically, men are usually attracted to women with large breasts because on an instictual level, the bigger the woman's breast the more milk she can provide to her offspring. Hear that, sunburst? We're nothing but baby machines, better get used to it now. The nipple is also attatched to the clit (via nerve endings) which is why it is used during forplay. Men probably oversexualize breasts because they aren't as graphic or as personal as vaginas. I personally don't get that offended by it. On the other hand, you could also say that the media oversexualizes muscles in men. Some women may get breast implants, but quite a few men take steroids, so it can go either way. -Kate
Its the way things are on an instinctive level. A great philosopher from the modern world who is just like Gandhi said that, you can either choose an animal life, or a civil life... civil life leads to equanmity, harmony and balance in the society and it is brought out by a balance in self restraint and freedom among individuals. On the other hand, if you want to choose an animal's life, it will lead to cruelty, bias, hatred etc... and yes, I do believe that letting female citizens of our country to go topless will lead to oversexuality and a total lack on self restraint in individuals, which will bring down our society's values to that of animal ones... I would also say the samething if men show their testicles dropping down from their pants. I hate to say that kids like you are making this breast thing a huge issue...I have to say that right now you are still growing up, let the time pass through your teenage years.. then you will slowly transform to adulthood and you will start seeing the truth in why the way things are in this world. If you want to make a fuss about something, I suggest that you make a fuss about important things... like gaining women more rights... not trying to make them into objects of sexual exploitation. Be the change you want to see in the world- Mahatma Gandhi
This is not true. Researchers named Beach and Ford did a study of 190 societies and only thirteen societies found female breasts sexually exciting or used them in sex play more than other NON sexual body parts. The other societies did not find breasts more exciting or sexual than any other body part. It is NOT instinctual or biological to be attracted to breasts more than other body parts. Most people who have lots of normal and healthy exposure to breastfeeding KNOW that the size of a breast has NO impact on it abilty to make milk. Animals and humans know this "instinctually." NO animal is attracted to breasts, despite the need to ensure a female can provide a child with milk. In societies where men are attracted to breasts we see some things in common, 1)low abysmal rates of breastfeeding (which seems to show that attraction to breasts as an exclusive or selective thing is related to DEPRIVATION of normal breastfeeding in childhood) 2) high rape and child sexual assault rates 3)general degradation of the roles of womyn and children in the societies.
This is not true. Researchers named Beach and Ford did a study of 190 societies and only thirteen societies found female breasts sexually exciting or used them in sex play more than other NON sexual body parts. The other societies did not find breasts more exciting or sexual than any other body part. It is NOT instinctual or biological to be attracted to breasts more than other body parts. Most people who have lots of normal and healthy exposure to breastfeeding KNOW that the size of a breast has NO impact on it abilty to make milk. Animals and humans know this "instinctually." NO animal is attracted to breasts, despite the need to ensure a female can provide a child with milk. In societies where men are attracted to breasts we see some things in common, 1)low abysmal rates of breastfeeding (which seems to show that attraction to breasts as an exclusive or selective thing is related to DEPRIVATION of normal breastfeeding in childhood) 2) high rape and child sexual assault rates 3)general degradation of the roles of womyn and children in the societies. I have NEVER seen that the nerve pathways between the clitoris and the nipple are connected. (And I have studied the physiology and it's neurochemical reactions of the breast in great detail.) Do you have a medical reference for that? Some womyn may be excited when their breasts are stimulated, but that is a LEARNED RESPONSE. Due to our breastfed deprived, breast obsessed society.
I do too. (In a non erotic sense.) Female breasts are a wonder of nature. It is cool and healthy to give them honor and respect!
I'd say I have to agree with Jedi on this. More important issues to be adressed then "Why does this make men in our society horny" It does, its not a bad thing. I don't think I understand your issue here... Do you just want to be able to go topless?
This still doen't explain why men can go topless and women can't? I thought women were supposed to have equal rights. Men can also be stimulated when you play with/or run fingernails down their chest, so thats no excuse.
There are steeper penalties for hitting a woman. In fact here in Texas, self defence isn't even aceptable to hit a woman. She can be beating the fuck outta you and you can do shit. Ok lets say women are alowed to go topless. Do you think a huge population of females are going to scream "FINALLY!" and throw off their shirts? You know come to think of it I dont even recall seeing many guys shirtless in public, save for the ocasional recreational athletes in a park. You know I thought that going topless would be lower on your list, or at least bellow say... equal wages or job opportunities. Once again the soapbox of insanity. Fucking go shirtless in you home if you like. The fact remains that its become almost innate within our culture for males to be sexually stimulated by breasts and odds are your not going to get an entire society to stop getting turned on by tits.
Yeah right, if Mel Gibson, Brad Pitt, or any other guy walked in the room topless then no women would be sexual attracted. Fact is "Men are allowed to go topless and women can't in most places in USA" everyone has the right to free speech, and the right to work & go to college. But God forbid, that everyone who lives in a hot area doesn't have the right to go topless just because they are female. Saying women should be able to go topless isn't an arguement for total nudity, because thats illegal for everyone. If "Society" thinks breasts are to sexually then men with huge breast wouldn't be able to go topless, or flat women could go topless, or women who had breast removal. Yes those women have scars, but the issue is they don't have breast to cover up. here are a couple sites that I found on this same issue www.geocities.com/womens_choice_org/topfreedom.html www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/6107 these have alot of stories and legal case stuff in Canada
Dude, CALM DOWN!! I didn't know the whole Beach and Ford study thing. Sorry I offended you. I didn't mean to say that women with smaller breasts produce less milk, I know that isn't true. And I heard about the clit-nipple thing from the Sunday Night Sex Show with Sue Johanson. She's a registered nurse who has a call-in sex ed program. Maybe it's not nerve endings, but in most women there is a slight form of excitement that comes from nipple stimulation. Also according to Sue Johanson, about 1% of all women can actually orgasm via nipple stimulation, (although I can imagine that would take some time.) Here's a website: http://www.talksexwithsue.com Going back to the topic at hand, I agree with Jedi in that women shouldn't be allowed to go topless. I mean really, it's not like you're gonna die of heatstroke if you have to wear a tanktop. To be fair, I honestly wouldn't have a problem if men weren't allowed to go around shirtless either. What's so wrong with modesty? I'm sorry, I just can't get all passionate about the "sexism" of women not being allowed to go topless when there are women being stoned to death for showing their ankles in other parts of the world. -Kate
I live in Arizona, and it's damn near 110 degrees here right now. I would LOVE to take off my top at the lake and get a nice tan, without any lines. Do you know how nice and free it feels to swim without being covered up? Just about the most refreshing thing you can do on a hot summer's day! I just think a lot of women who want to go topless are a little jealous that men can do it wherever and whenever they want. It's just simply not fair, and there's no good reason for it. I think that's the issue at hand. And PS, if Brad Pitt or Mel Gibson walked into a room shirtless, I WOULD be turned on!
I lived in Kingman,AZ for 6 long hot years. one ex complained about the heat and was going to take off his shirt.....told him to go ahead and I would too, he said I couldn't (cuz the world we live in wouldn't accept it) yeah neither would he. But he left his shirt on and didn't cause a scene with me.
Humans are not animals. Animals tend to vary little in characteristics withing a given species, so mate selection has to be determined in other ways. Humans vary greatly, and it is no surporise, then, that physical features such as breasts are used to determine who is a suitable mate. As for it not being a biological or instinctual thing: how would you know? You're certainly not a man. It could just well be that the societies in which breasts are not considered sexual the men are conditioned to be this way. 1) Prove it. Are these "thirteen societies" all modern industrialized societies? How do you know that this low breastfeeding rate can't be attributed to corporations developing alternatives which they claim to be better and brainwash women into believing this? Besides, 150 years ago, buxom women were quite desireable in America, however, breastfeeding was the norm. Explain. 2) Hold on a second here. Radical feminists such as yourself ALWAYS argue that rape and sexual assault has to do with POWER and not sexual urges. So now you're saying that in fact the fact that men find breasts sexually appealing does provocate a higher rate of sexual assault and rape, hence women who flaunt their breasts--by your logic--are in fact contributing to this disturbing trend. 3) This is just ideological cant on your part. And how is it that men having sexual feeling towards breasts leads them to "degrade... the roles" of children? That's total nonesense. I highly doubt that women who get excited when their breasts are stimulated are experiencing this because it is a "LEARNED RESPONSE". It's much more likely the case that women who don't get excited when their breasts are stimulated are this way because of how they were raised. As someone who has studied the breast "in great detail" certainly you know that women are often sexually stimulated by breastfeeding, occasionally to the point of having an orgasm.
well, my siblings and i were all breastfed, though i stopped somewhat sooner than the rest. of all my siblings, i have the least interesting in large breasts. perhaps i "resent breasts" because my mother couldn't breast feed me anymore. i doubt that, though. i think it's just because i have a massive pair of my own. i think the fact that women here cover them up 99.99% of the time is why our culture is breast-obsessed. if they weren't covered up all the time, they wouldn't be as interesting. the cover up coming from fashion or habit, cooler climate requiring more covering up over the centuries. whatever it is. just like how women used to always have to wear gloves and long skirts or stocking, lest anyone should see their hands or ankles and become aroused by the sight. no one can completely understand the derivation of cultural sexual fetishes. who can figure? chinese with the lotus feet, african tribes with the facial scarring or massive piercings. don't be angry with it, just deal with it. women barely cover their bodies in the summertime anyway.
Ok... Can guys grab our shit on hot days? Cause I mean it gets real humid in there and stuff starts to itch and stick to parts... Are you guys going to get offended when the race of pigs is all grabbing their dinks and readjusting through the fabric of our pants? Cause the issue is comfort right? Sure we wont get ticketed but I can't count the times I've been scoffed at for adjusting. I think you should be able to take your shirts off, but would you get pissed when guys are popping obvious boners at the site of them? And when walking with your mate are you gonna get pissed when he pops a boner at the site of OTHER girls tits?
check out the site www.topfreedomusa.0catch.com it's a very interesting site with lots of stuff on this issue. Did ya know that 42 men were prosecuted for going topless in public in 1935 in Atlantic City,NJ? Guess the law changed in 1939 allowing men to go topless. This country can put men on the moon, why can't they put women on the constitution? We the people; not we the male citizens formed the union.
i wasnt aware going topless was a constitutional right for men or women...but i guess some judge can make it one *sigh* freedom of speech perhaps?