The Matrix is real.

I'm drunk, it's seven in the morning, and I've been up for several days.
Whereas most will probably write off my current state as at best dillusional and at worst utterly insane, I'll happily consider it a window into reality.
Real reality.
Yes, maybe by definition that is insanity...and I'll happily accept it.


Regardless, I digress.
The Matrix is real.
As in, really real. Not just Intro-To-Philosophy class conversational BS about the Cave. Not just pseudo-intellectual thoughtlines taking occasional language from the Matrix mythos.
I mean we're IN the Matrix. Maybe every detail doesn't match the films, maybe most don't. The theme is the same, as is the central idea...the core of truth and meaning. It's not all symbolism and easy-to-indentify theological imagery meant to make teenage movie fans think they're terrible smart...


I've seen glimpses of the real, as have others. I believe, and I want to believe...if that makes any sense.
Now, beyond the endless flames this post will earn me...does anyone feel the same? Does anyone have links or anything else to share? As the saying goes, 'there is a splinter in my mind'...and -nothing- can get it out.

 

Care to elaborate on said glimpses? I also find incredible contradiction when you say The Matrix makes teens feel smart when you obviously refer to the film in this post several times. I'm not flaming. This post just lacks cohesion.

 

I'm not sure how "real" you think The Matrix is, from your post. If you believe that the universe we seem to occupy is a giant computer simulation and our physical bodies are wired into it, then I would have to say: No, I don't think so. However if you believe that the universe we seem to occupy is an extremely elaborate construct of an unimaginable awareness, and that the greater part of who we are exists apart from the physical universe and plays a game of being limited to the confines and limitations of physical, biological machines, then I would have to say: Sure, that would fit with some of my glimpses of "reality."

 

You've been up for a few days - Get some sleep!

 

I don't know about the symbolism in the Matrix. Nothing in it seemed to make any sense to me at all, but I liked watching it anyway. As far as happily accepting insanity, take it from me, you will not accept insanity happily no matter how you define it.

 

of course it is. though, there is NO "the architect"
or to put it in another way;
every single one of us are "architects" of this huge, damned, paradoxical cage that is called 'life', both in the making and the survival of it.

we are not the freewilled humans of the ancient past who have lived in harmony with the nature and within themselves.

we have lost something in that past and currently try to fill that gap with meaningless, petty concerns, like money, like tv, like "power". creeeepy...

if that was what you meant, I'll second it, surely.

 

To be one hundred and ten percent honest, I wrote this a while back when I was not at all nearly in a totally comprehensive state. Not that it should be dismissed - as those states are when I think I do my best thinking. But I don't really remember the specifics of what I was thinking beyond what I wrote.

I still hold the belief, for what it's worth. And I like your thoughtline on it, Eshu...we have indeed lost something. What it is, I haven't the foggiest, but it was something important.
I'm not so sure how 'actual' I was thinking this matrix of ours was...though I know most guffaw at the mere thought of it being anything more than a socio-cultural, philosophical issue...
But you never know... I've met some people and seen some things that makes me really wonder that it may be more.

 

the matrix is a movie, it is not real

 

How do we know what's real??? This could all be one big phat dream and we could all wake-up any minuet, but then when awake how would we know that's real? It could just be another dream? How do we know for real what's real?

 

read some Philip K Dick if you haven't

 

The problem with claiming that we live in a matrix is that there is no physical evidence. It doesn't mean we don't live with one, but with no evidence to point towards a matrix......it basically means it doesn't exist. There is no evidence against us living in a matrix, but there is no evidence for it either.

It's the same thing with gods deities, easter bunny, invisible pink unicorn, ect. There isn't necessarily proof against the existance of all these beings, but there is no evidence for them either. It's really pointless to try to come to any conclusions......there just best guesses with no evidence.

On the other hand, we do in someway live in a matrix universe in that there are physical laws bound by mathematical equations all based on a matrix of probablity.......but there is no evidence on what lies outside this universe of ours. It could be anything..........from God, to the flying speghetti monster, to a person programing this universe like a matrix,......to you on the outside controlling yourself through first person view!

 

I think it's a best-guess kind of scenario. The tricky part is that whatever you believe creates your reality to a very large degree.

You can use this principle to your advantage, if you can get a grip on your subconscious fears and believe in goodness--on the other hand, some folks enjoy drama, myself included--so to a large extent, you can make reality what you want it to be.

"To a large extent"--that's really an understatement. If you truly apply this principle, you will be amazed at how much you can create your own reality. Just try it, and see what I mean.

 

hell yeah.

 

You probably shouldent ever watch horror movies.

 

i agree totally with grim....im a 20 yr old girl...and i too am not a stranger to the delusional 8 in the morning drunk, stoned, on acid, undersatndings of the universe!!yes some ppl may say its only the drugs causing you to think in a unreasonable state...i beg to differ!
i no for a FACT from experiences, things ive seen, things ive learned to understand in the last 3 years....that im not sure whether matrix is the word you would call it, and i dnt believe for one second that the matrix is explaining life itself. i believe the matrix is a mere metaphore and a more hollywood, sience fiction way to describe "life"
theres more out there in this universe then wat people see everyday...i see and understand connection between things, i see wat this universe is made up of, i see and understand things that most 60 yr olds wud not even see!!!its scares me sometimes but i like it...! wat do i believe the mystery to life is????? hard question to figure out, im still trying to unlock some of the mysteries and codes to get further in the game myself, i have sooooooo many different explanations for LIFE but ill only share one with you guys for now.

i believe life is a game...now you ask me..but how did this game start???
that my friends as i sed am still tryna figure out myself, obvously a higher being of some sort, but for simple examples sake think of it like this.....

imagine two "aliens"...your typical alien like beings big eyes..highly inteligent etc....and imagine these 2 "aliens" had a ball of energy,a massive ball of energy and one tiny sperm like bit of energy came out and sed when can the game start???the aliens told them, there is jus a few rules you need to live by to complete this game.......and the little energy sed what?? the alien says... you need to keep peace, love , unity, respect amongst eachother and the main objective in this game is survival......survival is the only aim to the game!!
so...its starts (the big bang) and the universe begins to evolve!!! now i believe in each period of the universe evolving the "aliens" throw in little helpers eg...natural grown mushrooms (to expand the minds) Acid (to open the doors in the mind) the 13 crystal skulls (to give them hope) religion/belief (for faith something to survive for)
all these clues aded to the "game of life" so on and on it evolves....now every single living thing on this planet is in the game but there are only some who take are contenders in the game and realsie wats ACTUALLY going on!!!! when you start realising that life has more to offer then, money, material things, power...thats when you become a contender in "the game of life" the magic is there and all around us, you need to look beyond wat you see and hear....think deeper....wiser!!! each soul has a reason for living....everything happens for a reason.....untill your soul figures out its reason for being, and YOU figure out how to play the game right....your soul will keep being reincarnated until its goal is reached!!!
i hope this makes sense to some of you people reading this..... goodluck dudes,
love and peace from your 20 year old friend whos jus tryna get by in this CRAZY game that is LIFE

 

where did the aliens/gods come from?

 

Hmm, maybe I should try that...

 

real is what we percieve it to be, and what we choose to believe is what we percieve, if that makes any sense...

 

I think the cave allegory hits the nail right on the head. If you're talking about the "central idea" then it's the same central idea in all philosophers from Plato to Kant, Hegel to Nietzsche. It's the idea that we are constantly being fed all our sensory experiences. We don't gaze upon a passive world awaiting someone to discover it - the world tells us what it is. The question the Matrix asks is "Should we believe what we're being told?" This question goes beyond mere politics and socially woven myths; it confronts the very authenticity of our senses. Something feeds us our sensory data, but we don't know what. It certainly isn't the things we sense even though, in the end, this is what it has us believing.

 

i understand excately about creating your own reality.... and yes i do that...to a certain degree ive yet to learn how to turn major event in my life the way i wnt them to go. its brings it back tot he statement of "im the centre of the universe" your the centre of yours..and soo on!!! small example of makeing reality yours.... everything is made up of energy, rite! so lets say i work in a shop, guys walks in, rotten attutide no smile (bad energy off him ) he passes that negitivity my way, i cud then pass that bad energy to another and so on.
on the other hand....guy walks into my shop. smiles and says "hay hows it going...bla bla bla...ok have a nice day"
(good energy) he would put me into fantastic humour for hta day jus by his energy.....you get back wat you give in!!!! sorry dudes im really really bad at explaining myself its rite in my head tryna get it down in words is hard....hope i make a bitta sense.....
love 'n' light