The Illuminati..

Illuminati, do they exist?

 

Most people in here will probably say "no" and will attack anyone who dare suggests it. Most of these people will also argue that there is a real difference between the two major parties in this country (which are both owned by the same corporate interests), and will believe everything they hear Brian Williams or Peter Jennings tell them on the nightly news.

I say there is an Illuminati. I am literally convinced that there is indeed a group of very wealthy and powerful people that are pulling the strings from behind the scenes.

A lot of people seem to have difficulty with the term "Illuminati" for some reason. I also refer to them as the global-elite, or power-elite. The people who make up this global-elite (or Illuminati) are essentially the central banking families -- the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, Warburgs, etc. -- and their minions. These banking elites have people working for them at the very top of every major institution: politics, education, media, business, religion, etc..



For instance, when I say that George Bush is nothing more than a puppet, what I am saying is that he is nothing more than a puppet of these Illuminist bankers, who Bush is truly working for -- not the American people or the people in Iraq. Bush and his administration are not the policy makers as many people believe; the people who they work for are.

The banking elites work to push their agenda through various foundations and organizations they have set up, which work to fund causes they see fit to further this agenda. (Many of which are disguised as being "good" and to the benefit of the people.)

Then you have groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, and the various round table groups such as the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA). These groups are all headed by banking and corporate elites. David Rockefeller is the chairman of the Trilateral Commission, and holds a high seat within the Council on Foreign Relations and Bilderberg Group as well. Among these groups, besides the world bankers, you have multinational CEO's from the world's biggest corporations, academics from major universities, media moguls, high-ranking government officials, etc..

These groups -- especially the Bilderberg Group -- are very secretive, and are basically constructing and orchestrating policy and world events from behind the scenes. They then dictate these policies to the government, which is basically owned and controlled by them, and has people working for them within the highest seats of government power, who see to it that their agenda will be inforced.

I have extensively studied this elite and how they essentially control the governments of the world, fueling wars (on both sides) to further their agenda, which is basically a global tyranny, commonly referred to as the New World Order.

Yes, I do believe there is an Illuminati. I know there is.

 

I believe they do, but the illuminati is not what your being told from a lot of people. ALl the illuminati is are the 13 families who own the central banks and big oil companies etc. an example of one of these families is the Rothschilds, or the Rockefellers. These people have uncontrollable power over countries because these countries are all in debt to the central banks, so basically all major politicians are under the control of it, sometimes with, sometimes without their knowledge.

Some good sites to check out that aren't insane, and actually have factual information are:

http://www.masonicinfo.com/illuminati.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
http://www.trueconspiracies.com/

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

One can see how the pattern can add up to these few powerful families and the direction they wish to take things. It's much easier these days to take a look at the broader picture even without the knowledge of the illuminati. Whether they are the "Illuminati" or simply "Assholes" doesn't make much difference to me. I do wonder about the Draconians (sp?) though, just out of simple curiosity.

 

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries" -- David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

 

I read alot of articles, here and there, about how they control Everything.. Things we know, and things we dont..
Do someone knows about the computer they are building in Brussels and the 666 thing.. Its kinda confusing sometimes..
Ofcourse Bush is a puppet. The dumbest puppet ever. IMO, the Illuminati rules the US govt and most governments.. Not all, I hope. There must be exceptions.. No?

 

My thing with all this "New World Order" stuff are the sources.


If you aren't a member of the Masons, then how are you going to know exactly what they are up to? Those who say that they know what the Masons are up to,where are they getting their info from?

Were they Masons once?

Are they getting their info from a Masonic member?

Do they have a network of spies on the "inside" feeding them info on these secret societies?

 

Well, the term "New World Order" certainly is not new. It's been used for well over a hundred years, and has been uttered in speeches by US Presidents ranging from Woodrow Wilson to George Bush.

Of course we also have CFR and Trilateral Commission documents, where elites like Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller have stated on record (numerous times) that we need a "New World Order," referring to a world government and central bank.

Read some of these quotes:

"We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." -- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." -- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg

"I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in one world government. And if you believe in one world government, then you are talking about undermining national sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a dictatorship - and those plans are there!..." -- Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." -- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." -- Professor of History Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, in his book "Tragedy and Hope".

"The Technocratic Age is slowly designing an every day more controlled society. The society will be dominated by an elite of persons free from traditional values (!) who will have no doubt in fulfilling their objectives by means of purged techniques with which they will influence the behavior of people and will control and watch the society in all details". "... it will become possible to exert a practically permanent watch on each citizen of the world". -- Zbigniew Brzezinski (Co-founder of Trilateral Commission)

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." -- New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship." -- Former Congressman John Rarick, 1971

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." -- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and justanother day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins" . -- Bill Moyers

"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." -- CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs.

"The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government." -- Harpers, July, l958

Then, of course, all you really have to do is look around. This country -- as well as the European nations -- loses its sovereignty more and more each day, whether it be through the erosion of our national borders or through unconstitutional treaties. Or both. . . and more.

It's not a mystery that the economic elite want a world government. As a matter of fact, this is common knowledge to most people that have studied globalization and the globalist agenda.

Freemasonry dates back hundreds, if not thousands of years. Nothing can be kept completely secret for that long.

Just look at secret societies such as Skull & Bones and Bohemian Grove, which are Germanic, masonic offshoots. (And far from "unknown.") While every detail might not be known by researchers, a lot is known based on the powerful figures that have had connections to these societies.

There is also a lot of text that has turned up throughout the years by high-ranking masons like Albert Pike and Manly P. Hall, which outlines to the Masonic agenda for global control.

But it's pointless to get hung up on Masonry when its many offshots are far less secretive, and its operatives are present in every major institution throughout the world and control world events from behind the scenes.

 

All of this is mainstream media in conspiracy circles. The misty connection, in my mind, is a link between the NWO and all of its components, and chemtrails and the such. Even so far (or maybe not-so-far) fetched ideas as the Annunaki and their existence, and connection to figures in the NWO.

I think when Murdoch dies the media will breath easier. His conservative grip is a chokehold on truth in the modern world.

I think studying the connection between politics and economics would do conspiracy theorists a lot of good. I too, do not like the stigma given to those who try and read what is between the lines and some sturdy, accepted information would greatly enhance the public reception of such notions.

Furthermore, there seems to me little unity in the anti-NWO movement; if indeed there is one: Protests are in abundance, but their colors or not in sync. Forums are filling, but discussions go nowhere because data is never fully accepted and the anonymity of the members creates little bonding other than on an intellectual level, to stop the threat.

Nothing but an equally underground, cohesive movement will stop such a looming specter as the 'Illuminati'. The only thing is, we must appeal to man's sense of morality instead of his avarice.

I think that is getting better. Education is definitely not good for the motives of the Illuminati. The invisibility of their cloak is proportional to the ignorance of our minds.

 

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I suppose that the Illuminati could exist but who cares? Humans are humans and have been conspiring and underminding each-other for 500,000 years. This is nothing new. It won't ever go away.

So I suggest you live your lives wearing aluminum foil hats. For it's the only way you will be safe.

 

Well I actually don't consider myself a paranoid person at all, i just enjoy researching conspiracy theories and alternative history and news.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

Yes, I know you're hip and cynical. I know you pride yourself on being cool. I know you're a liberal.

Congratulations.

You're so hip and carefree. I wish I could be just like you.

You are right, studying alternative history just isn't right, and anybody who does wears a tin-foil hat and lives in a shack in the woods. From now on, I will only rely and Wolf Blitzer and Sean Hannity for information.

Asking questions isn't cool. Thinking isn't cool. Pretending like the world is the way we see it is cool, and to think outside of the box equates to being an uneducated hick.

I think I get your point.

To try and understand how the world really works deserves ridicule, especially if it doesn't go along with what we learned in school and hear on the news.

Thank you for opening my mind to how the world really works, which is just like we see on TV, which I think I will go watch right now. Hey, is Survivor on during the weekends? I need think I need a little "reality television" to lift my mood, so I don't think about other things that more important, thus "laughable." I wouldn't want anybody in these forums to think negatively of me. It would really send me spiraling into a terrible depression.

 

Awwwww...Pressed Rat I love you too. I think I actually missed you during my hiatus from Hipforums.

 

I clicked the "educate-yourself", and uh. . . you call this factual information?

"In order to preserve the 'best' of humanity when the supposed 'self-destruction' of the earth takes place around the year 2,000, the JASON Society proposed that a vast network of underground cities be built in order to secure living quarters for the chosen Illuminati elite, high level cooperative politicians, and selected military elements. Underground cities are also co-habitated by extraterrestrial alien groups that the secret government has made treaties with for technology exchange and human-alien hybrid breeding programs."

SHIT! The Government is working with aliens. . .

Not to be an asshole; I agreed with everything you said up until:

"Some good sites to check out that aren't insane, and actually have factual information"

 

gEo,

I think it requires a little effort on your part to separate what could be real from what may not. No textbook tells the entire truth, hence, no website will either.

Some of it is viable, some is a little far-fetched, and some of it is otter caca.

 

Sorry about that, I had skimmed through some of the page and thought it was a legitamte source of info, but it seems to have some strange info on there, i find a lot of times there are sites like that, but try looking around at the information that you actually believe and they most likely will help you.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

I don't know if all that is exactly false. I do believe that there are vast underground tunnel networks that run underneith parts of the United States, and I am certain there are underground bunkers as well.

As far as the thing about extra-terrestrials, there isn't enough evidence to support such a theory, but to be honest with you, it would not surprise me if that was true.

However, the JASON Society DID exist, and was commissioned by President Eisenhower. The members of this group were also key members of the Council on Foreign Relations.

 

I used to be big on the federal reserve conspiracy, though i never actually read the book (in your sig).

It's the Rothschilds right? Who own the dough. And apparantly JFK and was it Lincoln? Got assassinated for messing with it. If the information's true it's a little eery, as they both intended to draft their own money, to counter the control of the banking families.

Could you elaborate on that?

 

Actually, you would be astonished to find that there is a world somewhere in between absolute faith in Sean Hannity and absolute faith in Rense. Its called the middle, and although it is the most hated place at Hipforums, its actually not such a bad place to be.

No problem, that's about how much effort I assume you put into verifying your sources anyway.

 

Pointbreak, why are you such a dick? I never said anything rude to you and i completely respect your opinions (Yes, rarely you put some opinions on this site instead of just yelling and saying mean things to people) I posted a site on here that was very long, so what if i missed a paragraph or two and posted something that wasn't completely true, i admitted my mistake anyway. why don't you stop being such an asshole and personally insulting people who post things you don't agree with.

Peace and Love,
Dan