The Hateful Eight

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  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I really enjoyed The Hateful Eight directed by Quentin Tarantino, and although the movie is nearly 3 hours long (including intermission) it felt like two hours.

    Movie Info;

    Set several years after the Civil War, a stagecoach hurtles through the wintry Wyoming landscape. The passengers, bounty hunter John Ruth (played by Kurt Russell) and his fugitive Daisy Domergue (played by Jennifer Jason Leigh), race towards the town of Red Rock where Ruth, known in these parts as "The Hangman," will bring Domergue to justice.

    Along the road, they encounter two strangers: Major Marquis Warren, a black former union soldier turned infamous bounty hunter (played by Samuel L Jackson) and Chris Mannix (played by Walton Goggins) a southern renegade who claims to be the town's new Sheriff.

    Losing their lead on the blizzard, Ruth, Domergue, Warren and Mannix seek refuge at Minnie's Haberdashery, a stagecoach stopover on a mountain pass. When they arrive at Minnie's, they are greeted not by the proprietor but by four unfamiliar faces. Bob, who's taking care of Minnie's while she's visiting her mother, is holed up with Oswaldo Mobray, the hangman of Red Rock, cow-puncher Joe Gage (Madsen), and Confederate General Sanford Smithers.

    As the storm overtakes the mountainside stopover, our eight travelers come to learn they may not make it to Red Rock after all...

    Other notable films by Quentin Tarantino

    Pulp Fiction
    Reservoir Dogs
    Inglourious Basterds
    Django Unchained
    Kill Bill Volume 1 + 2
    Death Proof
    Jackie Brown



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  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The trailer doesnt make it look all that exciting, its a pretty dull trailer
     
  3. Asmodean

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    The trailer makes it look like a pure pulp movie. More like another tribute to the 70's spaghetti western than a movie that stands on it's own in originality. I'm only going by the trailer so far of course, the spaghetti western is my favourite kind of western movie and I like it that Tarantino gets so 'inspired' by them, so I'm looking forward to see this movie as well. But just like Django unchained it seems to have some elements that make it more pulp than art. This while I think the movie Pulp fiction is really pulp elevated into art. Not so much for movies like Django unchained or Inglorious bastards (which still had some great scenes) for example.

    Stagecoaches and snow makes me giddy though. The setting appeals to me a lot :)
     
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    I haven't seen django unchained or inglorious bastards but I'm a huge fan of all of tarentino's other work. I just read a review of this movie and I'm pretty excited to see it.
     
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    I think Pulp fiction and Jackie Brown are my favs. But I love Kill Bill too. I used to think Tarantino should really make a western in 'spaghetti' style :p But became indifferent after Django unchained. Still interested to see what he made of the hateful 8 (that rhymes!)
     
  6. SpacemanSpiff

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    i like most of his movies

    this one was a let down for me...it was much too predictable ...only one incident in the whole movie was a surprise (the floor shot)


    also I was really really turned off by the excessive and un-needed use of the word ******
     
  7. hotwater

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    I personally didn’t feel it was too excessive but ok, as for predictability, Tarantino gave the audience just what it wanted, intelligent dialogue and excessive violence.



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  8. hotwater

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    [SIZE=10pt]Ennio Morricone[/SIZE] (Fist Full of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly) came out of retirement just to write the music score


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  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Django is by far my favourite Tarantino movie, I thought it was brilliant

    The Kill Bills, I thought they were kind of dumb. And Jackie Brown, bit of a snooze
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I was pleasantly surprised, even though it was three hours long.

    For a movie thats three hours long and mostly set in one room, it was pretty engaging

    JJL kind of stole the show in this one

    And Id like to see Kurt Russell in more big budget movies, hopefully this one will let him have something of a comeback

    This movie is no Django, love that movie, but its at the preffered end for me as far as Tarantino movies go
     
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    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    [SIZE=10pt]There were basically just two movie sets on the way to Red Rock, The Stagecoach and Minnie’s Haberdashery where everything goes down [/SIZE]


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  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Which is why I said pleasantly surprised, for a movie that long, as you said just two sets, I wasnt bored.

    I wouldnt exactly say all that predictable, I thought it was well thought out and considered.

    Im one that didnt really like the Kill Bills, those two movies seem just a string of scenes strung together for not much reason. I prefer Tarantino to make movies like Hat8ful
     
  13. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree Jennifer Jason Leigh was good but gotta give kudos to Samuel L Jackson for another fine performance.


    I really enjoy his movies.......

    Pulp Fiction
    Django Unchained
    Die Hard with a Vengeance
    The Long Kiss Goodnight
    Black Snake Moan (with Christina Ricci when she was the most fuckable woman in Hollywood)
    Jumper
    Do the Right Thing
    A Time To kill
    Unbreakable
    Jurassic Park
    Star Wars Episode III, Revenge of the Sith


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  14. EventHorizon

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    I thought it was a great film. I see how some people wouldn't think it is. For a lot of people, this isn't what they want to see in a film. They want something that isn't poking at issues they don't know what to think about on some level.

    Tarantino is creating a genre that uses stories to celebrate how he thinks film making is best paid tribute to. While taking the time to not ignore how some of the moral issues in his films are still relevant. Its almost like the script, cast and material is secondary. The film just feels like it's there to be a film. Not start some series. Or make a ton of cash. It feels like the entire effort is fan service to people who just love a good film, and don't want their time to be wasted with product placement or unnecessary love triangles. I never feel like my time is being wasted with his movies, it never really feels forced or over the top. Even though some times it is both of those things.
     
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    Long Kiss Goodnight is a classic:

    There may be many reasons not to kill you, but among them is not that you'll be missed by NASA. I found the address in your coat. Here. Between the address of a topless bar, and the picture of what looks like a man's penis.

    That's a duck, not a dick
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Haven't seen this movie yet, but I know his style of course and I can't agree that he's creating a new genre. Sure he focusses on a combi of violence and intriguing dialogues that appears to be unique but he is often taking so much elements of other movies it is more a tribute to movies and moviemaking than a new movie genre (to me).
    Inglorious bastards definitely felt forced and over the top for me. I did enjoy it though because it was done very well and simply still entertaining. But yeah it seems only really creative and original, or a real masterpiece if you didn't took notice of the movies he was inspired by.
     
  17. EventHorizon

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    I'm not willing to take it to the grave that he's creating a new genre. I'm sure there's a technical way to prove I'm wrong. I'll outright admit it. I just know that I'm entertained by his films in a way that is unique. Its certainly easier to say 'I'm a Tarantino fan' than to say..'I'm a fan of dialogue driven non-sequential crime-action dramas'. I don't know. I do know that evolution is good, and devolution is even better sometimes. With all the practical blood spatters, 70mm film, vintage characterizations, etc.

    No matter what we call it, or what it should be called. Hateful 8 was a great film. Not amazing, or stellar. Just a good fun ride with a lot of premium actors/actresses in the same shot, drinking whiskey, and wanting to kill each other. Good stuff.
     
  18. hotwater

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    My favorite scene is when Geena Davis breaks the neck of the deer


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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    My favourite scene is " I let you touch me cowboy, I think I need a bath"

    I gotta watch that movie again I think
     
  20. Shale

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    I am gonna pass on this movie just because of the length of 2 hours and 47 minutes. Too long to commit.

    Even with an intermission, I can see standing in line for a urinal (or dancing in line) not a pleasant wait.

    I liked Django and other Tarantino flicks - but this one I'll wait for the DVD and watch it at home where I have a pause button.
     

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