The EURO...

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Jennyflower, May 19, 2004.

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Join the euro

  1. yes, it would be good

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  2. no, lets keep the pound

    27 vote(s)
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  1. Jennyflower

    Jennyflower Member

    do you think we should join te euro or not?
     
  2. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

    Aye, I'm very pro-Euro, we need unity in this world and not division. Nationalism and the sovereign nation state should not be placed above unity and co-operation between cultures and peoples. I don't think that we should make one great homogenous culture either, we need to preserve cultural diversities, but I do not think that any culture should be defined by the currency they use....
     
  3. kier

    kier I R Baboon

    i say go with the euro. it has so many advantages, such as mixing nationalites, easier traveling, education/healthcare/etc more readily available in other countrys....the only plusses i can see for the pound are for the rich/rightwing/both(/other) :p
     
  4. Nistix

    Nistix Member

    euro is the way forward!!!!
     
  5. Spuff

    Spuff Where's my ciggies?

    I'd say that the Euro would break down a lot of metaphorical walls between Britain and the rest of Europe. Rather than be seen as a country 'looking down' on others, it would make us become much more on a level with other countries. Yes, I am pro-Euro!:)
     
  6. JOsie

    JOsie Member

    i just want new money...so i can tell kids..."i remember when we had the old money"...
     
  7. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

    I'm undecided. The problem is, greater European unity sounds great as a principle, but I think the leftist desire to see greater trans-national unity has been hijacked and the wool pulled over our eyes. Unfortunately, the traditionalist right-wingers have, in turn, hijacked the anti-integration argument.

    What we have to ask ourselves is what kind of Europe we're actually signing up to, and what the agenda is of those behind it. I mean, it greater unity really being driven by people with altruistic motives, or is it being driven by those with a lot of money who see it as a great opportunity to make even more money? The real motivator behind Europe is the abolition of national fiscal boundaries to allow for free movement of goods between regions with harmonised taxation and currency. Ladies and gentlemen, you're supporting the rampant spread of capitalist materialism!

    I agree that greater cultural integration is a desirable thing, but let's not kid ourselves that we share an agenda with the people behind this change.
     
  8. Man_In_A_Shed

    Man_In_A_Shed Member


    yeah...that would be pretty cool...i'd also hold onto some old coins and try to use them in shops when i'm 70, that'll really confuse the spotty teenagers on the till....
     
  9. Graham

    Graham Member

    i dont understand were a free-trade pact turned into the united states of europe....

    ^_^ oh well , as long as the change is directed towards intergration and freedom not money i think it will be a good move.
     
  10. Jennyflower

    Jennyflower Member

    im all for the euro, but alot of my friends are saying how everything will become more expensive and as a country will we lose money. is that true, coz i couldnt think of a a good argument to come back at them with! x
     
  11. torz

    torz Member

    i'm all for the Euro. jenny flower, when a country changers curency every thing in a little more expensive but thats only cus the currencey has changed & needs time to adjust. the only reason i can see that people in this country are against the Euro is because they read & believe whats written in the papers as they are all anti europe.
     
  12. Merlin

    Merlin Member

    I'm very much in favour of the Euro. I am ultimately in favour of a one world currency and the Euro is a huge step towards this. It's also worth adding that although some things may become more expensive in the UK as a result, but many things will be cheaper in other European countries. It will greatly help to put the economies of nations like the UK, France and Germany level with that of say, Poland or Hungary or other poorer European countries. The UK will join. It's inevitable.
     
  13. Iago

    Iago Member

    But varying political agendas aside, its bloody tacky looking money.
     
  14. Megara

    Megara Banned

    any currency with different color bills and/or different sizes looks tacky
     
  15. borut16

    borut16 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    I agree with that. We're getting Euro here in few years and I think most of the people are for it, in my country, and I think it would be good if they started using Euro in U.K. and Sweden as well(it's Sweden that still uses 'its' currency, right?). This would be good because of practical reasons and it would bring people from E.U. 'closer'. That's just my opinion, I don't see a reason why one wouldn't want to have that except for prices getting higher, but that's always like that when currency is changing(look at Italy for example, prices went up a lot but now people are used to it). I'll miss our currency(only had it for 15 years) but it's allright. :)
     
  16. Midsummersun

    Midsummersun Member

    I agree with the euro in principle, and would love to see one world currency, but bear in mind what DoktorAtomik has said, that it is a tool of capitalism. If the capitalist support the euro, then we should at least be wary of it. As for benefitiing Poland and Hungary, it will only do so at a cost, with strict reforms. We may be able to benefit from the euro, but I get the impression that there aren't many people in these forums who regard themselves as 'poor' or uneducated.
     
  17. Midsummersun

    Midsummersun Member

    Perhaps I should clarify that last comment. Most here would agree that capitalism works to exploit natural and human resources for its (their) own gain. The most impoverished are held down, and schooled to be impoverished workers. The euro is just another tool in that exploitation. How exactly it works, I don't know, and I can see the potential benefits to myself but, although my family was very poor up until I was 12, I'm not poor or greatly impoverished now, however much I moan about having no money. I have had a good education and have many opportunities. Hell, if I put my mind to it I could be managing a Sainsbury's store in about 5 years time. Most people, and I really mean most, do not and will never have the opportunities I have. These are the ones who will suffer.
     
  18. ArtLoveMusic

    ArtLoveMusic Senior Member

    i can barely handle working in pounds let alone euros :S :S:S its going to so confuse mye when/if it happens
     
  19. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

    I think we should keep the pound and quit the EU. I am also against the European Union as a whole.

    Apart from the economic risks, we are a unique nation and should not be encouraged to lose our identity or history. It's like being told that our new language will be Esperanto and we should all quit speaking English in order to promote unity.

    I see it all as a big con to create a Eurpoean superstate. We just don't need them, never have and never will.
     
  20. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

    Paul..... I'm on the fence on this one, but out of curiosity, how would you feel if Wales decided that they should ditch the UK and be their own nation state? Or come to that, Cornwall? Just wondering, because I find the argument between macro and micro states to be quite interesting. If smaller is better, where do you draw the line? Independent regions? Independent cities? And if you think larger is better, then why stop at Europe? Why not have a world government?
     

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