Words in Genesis tell where the garden of Eden is: in + Eden + subtil = Underground. in + den + sub = underground is where the garden of Eden is. The serpent was a garden snake, obviously, or else, the woman would have been FREAKED OUT. Garden snakes are cute, and we know women like cute things, and will not flee from cute things. Garden snakes live in holes in the ground, also. Read Gen 2 and Gen 3, again, and notice how "in" is used and know that '...out of the ground' doesn't always have to mean up top of the ground. A rock can be made out of the ground right in the ground, right? Don't act like you can't see that. This is why no one up top of this planet can find the garden of Eden, because it is in the ground somewhere, not up top of the ground. Suckers falling for liars who claim to have found the garden up top some where, have been the case. The animals Adam given a name to where BROUGHT TO HIM. Then the snake was sub than the other beasts of the field. This hint is telling me that the animals named by Adam were put up top the ground after having been named by Adam. But if you haven't a sense for detail, like for the reason it used the word subtil which has sub in it, then you shouldn't even get this thread, because you have a one-dimension sense. Sub deals with under, whether that's under water or under ground. And it means it can surface. The phrase sent forth and drove out were used later, to imply that Adam and Eve were put up top of the ground and were no longer "in" Eden. Where the narrorator said "in" Eden, you should take a careful look at what that indeed can mean. O, yeah, Eden... Lord God didn't name it, Adam and Eve didn't name it, then who named it Eden? No one till me noticed this. Well, since a snake that lives in the ground has the word garden in its name, that does kind of sound like maybe that talking snake may have named it that, since, after all, that snake had more rule over Adam and Eve than Lord God... Maybe because that Eden place was/is that subtil snake's territory/kingdom/etc. Eden has den in it, and we know how when someone finds something they name it after themself in some wise. Well, a talking garden snake maybe applied den from its name for the name Eden it came up with, since that garden snake maybe is/was the founder. lol.