The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    Obama was in office for many months and had already had a few right wing conspiracies about him circulate. You would think not being born in America would be the first and only thing they talked about before and after an election. You know since it's a simple way to disqualify someone for the presidency regardless of race. But instead is was that because he was dark skinned and had the name he did he was obviously a Muslim plant hell bent on putting America under Sharia law. During those few months he was born here but his foreign born Muslim father had insured he was fanatical about Sharia law. Thus his entire political career is a long con to bring down the decadent west. Then the birther thing just tied into it. It's easy for them to become one and same.
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  2. egger

    egger Member

    A policy expert explains how anti-intellectualism gave rise to Donald Trump
    The Takeaway
    August 02, 2016 · 3:45 PM EDT

    From the article:

    "Boot argues that far-right populists within the Republican Party feed off of Trump’s anti-intellectualism because they believe elite intellectuals are to blame for their problems to begin with. Meanwhile, Trump is working to directly appeal to white working-class communities that have a “long tradition of hostility towards knowledge.”

    “That is the core constituency that Trump is appealing to,” he says. “He’s not just ignorant, he’s proudly ignorant — he brags about how he doesn’t read books. For him, this is a point of pride, and unfortunately it is for a lot of his followers as well.”

    Trump’s disdain for knowledge, Boot says, is dangerous. The Republican nominee has said he knows more about the terrorist group ISIS than American generals do, and has suggested that the US should use torture during interrogation, even though the director of the CIA has said he’ll resign if such practices were brought back. Over the weekend, Trump appeared confused during an interview after he suggested that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not send troops into Ukraine when, in fact, they have been there for years."
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  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

    Yeah, my Trump supporting friends pride themselves in not following the news (since it's all fake anyway), and they seldom if ever read a book. The more "intellectual" among them will watch Fox. One, an anarchist-leaning libertarian, even draws on the conspiracy-oriented Drudge report as a primary source of information. Their political beliefs are largely shaped by confirmation bias and reflexes commanding reverence for the flag, respect for the President (if he's a white Republican), distrust of government. and support for the Republican Party no matter what. They respond positively to all of the "hot button" wedge issues that Trump tweets out, as they filter out to them through the grapevine of social media and emails from right-wing friends. In other words, getting through to them for a reality check is impossible. The only hope is for the economy to turn sour, or the Republican "tax reforms" to take a major bite out of their incomes, both of which could happen.

    I think it's amazing how a political party which seems to be mainly about transferring wealth to billionaires could successfully project the image of being against "elites" and defenders of the "common man." Dealing with that paradox was the subject of historian/jounalist Thomas Frank's Book, What's The Matter With Kansas? The book details how Republicans were able to change the political discourse in recent decades from economic equity to "hot button" cultural issues like abortion, gays, Muslims, and race, thereby directing anger toward "liberal elites", so that Middle Americans like Kansans are actually persuaded to vote against their own best interests. The results in Kansas can be seen in the economic ruin left in the wake of Republican Governor Brownback's implementation of Republican "supply side" economics.
    And now the United States can experience the results of the same failed policy, courtesy of the Trump/Ryan "tax reform" program! Folks are dumb where we come from!
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  4. egger

    egger Member

    The ideology sounded good at first, but a few years later reality set in for the politicians in Kansas.

    Legislature overrides Brownback’s veto of bill that rolls back his 2012 tax cuts
    By Hunter Woodall
    June 06, 2017 4:37 PM

    From the article:


    The Republican dominated Kansas Legislature that has soured on Gov. Sam Brownback’s vision for the state voted late Tuesday to roll back the governor’s signature tax cuts.

    Lawmakers voted to override Brownback’s veto of a tax plan estimated to bring the state more than $1.2 billion over a two-year span.

    The Senate vote was 27 to 13, and the House followed by agreeing 88 to 31 to supersede the Republican governor’s wishes on the tax plan and force the changes into law.

    Lawmakers marshaled together a coalition of moderate Republicans, conservatives and Democrats to overcome the governor’s opposition to seeing his landmark tax cuts, which have in large part come to define his tenure in Topeka, fundamentally come to an end."
  5. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

    I actually printed out the post you made about the uranium deal for a coworker and gave it to him to read.
    To his credit he did read it, but really faltered with a reply and fell back on weak "but Hillary" type of responses....
    Some folks so willingly choose ignorance it is both astounding and deeply sad and scary.
    Gawd help us all.......

    OOPS, I meant eggers post...
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  6. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

    One Minute Manager: Catch them doing something right. The Donald 's proclamation of a health emergency on the opiod epidemic should draw bipartisan support, and his accompanying comments about his brother and rare self-deprecating remarks about himself were spot on, and amazingly out of character. Hope it continues.
  7. Aerianne

    Aerianne Crazy Cat Lady Staff Member Super Moderator
  8. egger

    egger Member

    Although Trump can be applauded for raising the issue of opioid addiction, he needs to get his own house in order first. The Health & Human Services department currently has no permanent secretary Recall that Price resigned over the issue of using government money for personal flights. Don Wright was the acting secretary after the departure of Price. Now the acting secretary is Eric Hargen. Another relevant entitty, the Drug Enforcement Agency, is afflicted with vacancies.

    Trump's remarks about the opioid problem have little pragmatic value without funding and programs to treat the problem under the auspices of the HHS and DEA. Having an unsettled HHS and DEA doesn't help matters.

    Trump announces Eric Hargan as acting HHS secretary
    Sophie Tatum
    By Sophie Tatum

    Trump vows to 'liberate' Americans from 'scourge of drug addiction'
    But critics say his words won't mean much without the money to back them up.
    10/26/2017 08:56 AM EDT
    Updated 10/26/2017 06:05 PM EDT


    ""We're underwater," said Rep. David McKinley (R-W.Va.) during a congressional hearing earlier this week at which he criticized the federal response. "I don't understand why more resources aren’t flowing to help out a rural state like West Virginia." His state has the highest overdose death rate in the country."

    "The HHS public health emergency fund currently has only about $57,000 left in it, although Congress could replenish it and the department has some other emergency resources to draw on. An administration official said there are "ongoing discussions" with lawmakers about how much money is needed."

    "It's also not clear who will spearhead Trump's effort, given that there are vacancies or acting directors in several key agencies, including the Drug Enforcement Agency and HHS. Without clear leadership, "this is going nowhere," said Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association."
  9. egger

    egger Member

    Trump has been portraying a lax attitude toward what more experienced politicians and government workers argue is a pressing need to fill vacant positions in federal agencies and fill them with competent people. It's as if Trump thinks all of the vacancies don't matter much and that they can simply be left as-is as part of a shallow attrition approach that wll somehow get rid of what he refers to as the swamp of the federal government for which he has expressed such a disdain. It's these agencies that he needs to tackle problems such as opioid addiction. This is where the rubber meets the road. It's one of those defining points in time that officials and voters at the state and local levels will later use to judge the effectiveness of his administration.
  10. Amerijuanican

    Amerijuanican Member

    This is the typical Republican rhetoric- place blame, tell your "agenda" and do nothing but suck up the public's money afterwards.
    And then blame the Dems for something they aren't even a party to, or responsible for.
  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman mama's boy

    Everyone is colluding with the Russia except Trump

    Let that sink in
  12. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

  13. Amerijuanican

    Amerijuanican Member

    General Flynn was colluding with them, and he's tight with the Donald. Guilty!
  14. pineapple08

    pineapple08 Member

    Trump should be encouraged to play as much golf as possible.
  15. egger

    egger Member

    An article about the departure of Keith Schiller. He is a native New Yorker and has been a Trump confidant since 1999. Schiller apparently became frustrated with having to answer to Kelly who assumed his position as a result of the ongoing shuffle of personnel.. It's was a major loss for Trump. Schiller was known for his ability to diffuse Trump before he had another one of his explosions.

    Longtime Trump aide Keith Schiller leaves White House position
    By John Bowden - 09/20/17 09:06 AM EDT

    From the article:

    "Schiller has worked for Trump in New York since at least 1999 and began serving as Trump’s director of security in 2004. Until Wednesday, he served in the White House as director of Oval Office operations.

    The former New York City police officer was the only Trump bodyguard to stay on after Trump received Secret Service protection during the campaign. Schiller was tasked during campaign rallies with removing rowdy and hostile protesters from venues during Trump campaign speeches."
  16. egger

    egger Member

  17. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Sounds like a great place to save taxpayer funds and to realise smaller government.
  18. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Tax Reform needs to be revenue neutral. The better to attract supporters to the proposal.

    It is not supposed to be a giveaway.

    Or a revenue grab.
  19. egger

    egger Member

    Dated article.

    Dismayed by Trump, Head of Drug Enforcement Administration to Leave

    From the article:

    "WASHINGTON — The acting head of the Drug Enforcement Administration will resign at the end of the week, according to law enforcement officials, who said he had become convinced that President Trump had little respect for the law.

    The official, Chuck Rosenberg, who twice served as chief of staff to the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey and remains a close confidant, had grown disillusioned with Mr. Trump. The president fired Mr. Comey in May, and then in July told law enforcement officers “please don’t be too nice” when handling crime suspects.

    Mr. Rosenberg forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s comment, sending an email to all D.E.A. employees at the time to tell them that they should not mistreat suspects.

    “We must earn and keep the public trust and continue to hold ourselves to the very highest standards,” Mr. Rosenberg wrote in the internal email. “Ours is an honorable profession and, so, we will always act honorably.”"
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  20. egger

    egger Member

    Article from May 2017.

    America is in the middle of its deadliest drug crisis. Trump wants to gut the agency that can help.
    Trump’s proposal would cut funding to the Office of National Drug Control Policy by about 95 percent.
    Updated by German Lopez May 5, 2017, 1:45pm EDT

    From the article:

    "The cuts, however, would eliminate a lot of staffing at ONDCP, cutting the equivalent of about 33 full-time employees, Dan Diamond reported for Politico. With around 70 employees today, this would cut nearly half of staff.

    The cuts would also eliminate some federal anti-drug grants, including the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) program. Trump’s budget office argues that the grants are “duplicative of other efforts across the Federal government and supplant State and local responsibilities.” But law enforcement officials argue that these types of programs are needed to coordinate different local, state, and federal efforts in the fight against drugs.

    But the cuts would also eliminate efforts like the Drug-Free Communities Support Program. Despite bipartisan support, this has funded education programs, such as DARE, that have a bad record of preventing drug use — with various studies showing that DARE in particular failed to significantly reduce drug use among participants.

    That’s to say that there probably is some room to trim or refocus ONDCP’s budget. But overall, the cuts would devastate the office’s efforts to coordinate anti-drug policies.

    “These drastic proposed cuts are frankly heartbreaking, and if carried out, would cause us to lose many good people who contribute greatly to ONDCP's mission and core activities,” Richard Baum, ONDCP acting director, told staff in an email.

    The White House didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment about the cuts."
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