The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    He's been at the bottom... He's just digging deeper.
     
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  2. Flagme15

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    Why is this guy allowed to keep spewing racist vitriol?
    I agree. No one can be that angry, and bitter without having some kind of problem.
     
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  3. Flagme15

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    You know the thing that 6, and VG can't wrap their heads around is that times have changed, and people's atttudes, and mores have changed(except for theirs), and time is irreversible. As much as they want to live in an era where the white man was the dominant force, it's not going to happen.
     
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    The arrival of the coronavirus is a freak turn of fate for someone like Trump with a paranoia about contagions.

    Throughout life, Trump has had irrational fears about contagions, including fictitious ones in the windmills of his mind that he perceives as real.

    Now a potent real contagion has arrived and he can't accept that it is real.
     
  5. 6-eyed shaman

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    Those who kneel during the anthem are kneeling on the necks of those who fought and died to build this country. Including the ones who fought and died to end slavery.

    Yeah I'd say kneeling for the anthem is pretty low.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

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    You just make shit up, right?
     
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  7. soulcompromise

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    I'm glad to see you taking patriotism to new levels, but do their words fall on deaf ears? Yes, it doth wave... but for whom? And under what conditions?

    We have to make absolutely certain that just as slavery ended - absolutely certain - that systemic racism too must end! :)
     
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  8. Tishomingo

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    So, as a substitute for thought, Six just strings together a bunch of pejorative epithets that rightwingers hurl at their opponents and conjures up a monster of his own mind. Let's look at some of those:

    --anthem kneelers.
    Right-wingers like to wrap themselves in the flag and make a big deal about superficial displays of patriotism when it is they who support a Putin-loving president and display a preference for Russia over Democrats on their T-shirts. Where do you suppose that idea came from? NFL players kneel during the national anthem as a way to protest police brutality and racial inequality in the United States. They say they mean no disrespect by it. On the thread Federal Troops in Portland, Six-eyed Shaman provided a post by an ex-kickboxer he admires, now living in Romania, that advises us to leave the U.S. In post #421, Six extols the advantages of living in Romania or other Eastern European countries. What kind of patriotism is that?

    --baby killers. This, I take it, is a reference to support for abortion. A blastocyst in a Petri dish is a "baby", entitled to the right to life. Since Six isn't a person of faith, this seems like an unusual position for him to hold. I find it hard to think of a blastocyst as a baby, or a human in any sense other than DNA. I'm persuaded by the Aristotelian/Pythagorian/Augustinian view that a fetus becomes human at the time of ensoulment, which in modern terms would be the point at which it has sufficient neural development for sentience and cognition. But I wouldn't feel strongly enough to call somebody who disagreed with me a bad name, though.

    --fembots. Are we talking about internet bots which pose as women when posting spam? or Austin Powers-style gynoids? Maybe in Six's male chauvinist lexicon it has some other meaning, but in the present context that seems obscure.

    --eco-fascists. Is that another name for environmentalist? Are you against the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, RCRA,CERCLA, SDWA, TSCA and the rest of the alphabet soup that have actually made our environment more tolerable, but that Trump's anti-science Climate Change deniers are steadily chipping away at for profit to industrialists? Environmentalism used to be a bi-partisan issue back in the days when Nixon created most of that soup and ultra-conservative Goldwater was active in pushing environmental protection as an active member of the Sierra Club. Reagan helped to change all that.

    --churls. How medieveal. Churl: a peasant? Or are we talking "a rude, boorish, or surly person". Definition of CHURL In which case, that label would seem to fit Six himself.

    --Keynesian. A believer in Keynesian economics? Wasn't it Richard Nixon, no "Leftist" he, who said: "We are all Keynesians now."

    --Government supremacists. This from a supporter of our would-be autocratic president, who admires dictators, has claimed to be above the law and makes extravagant use of executive orders to expand presidential power and undermine constitutional checks and balances.

    --Flag burners. I thought you were a libertarian? The Supreme Court has reaffirmed in two major opinions that flag burning is protected symbolic speech. Since then, there hasn't been that much of it. When its legal, its no fun. Republicans reintroduced a measure outlawing it, with the support of Trump, even though it seems to be settled law. Anytime they get a chance to wrap themselves in the flag, they go for it, but when it comes to standing up to Putin, they're all jelly legs.

    --Collectivists. Refresh my memory. Which side is it again that wants to restrict what we can do, read, watch and/or smoke in the privacy of our bedrooms, or what women can do with their own bodies? That's the liberty that gave rise to the term "liberal" for a category of folks on the left. Libertarians, of course, go farther and call for deregulation of the economy, but back in the nineteenth century liberals concluded that ordinary working folks couldn't be free unless they had protection from their employers. A collectivist wants the government to regulate both the economy and the bedroom.

    --PETAphiles. Animal rights was never a defining concern of "The Left". It's still mainly a concern for groups on the fringes. You don't see mention of it in Democrat platforms. With the exception of Marianne Williamson, who had an Animal Protection Plan, none of the many candidates in the Democrat primary took a stance on animal issues. Hillary in her Senate days had an average Humane Society Legislative Fund Score of 92, which is excellent, but her campaign website in 2015 didn't address animal issues at all. Bernie Sanders scored a 97 with the HSLF, but again not much attention to it on the campaign train in either election. So really, it seems pretty misleading to brand leftists as PETAphiles. I, for one, don't care for PETA, because I think it's restrictive positions on animal testing interfere with scientific discoveries that could benefit humans, my primary concern.

    --History Revisionists. Republicans in control of local school boards, especially in Texas, seem to be very active in history revision. This from Breitbart:
    Texas School Board Gives Thanks by Erasing History
    See also:
    Texas school board approves controversial textbook changes - Need to Know | PBS
    Texas Revises History Education, Again | Perspectives on History | AHA
    Conservatives Force College Board To Revise History Classes To Fit Conservative Ideology
    This Is The AP U.S. History Course Some Conservatives Want Dropped | HuffPost
    Conservative school board revolution: Column

    --Soycialist soy boys. This epithet reveals the particular hang up of right wing males with traditional concepts of masculinity--a variation on the theme "real men don't eat quiche'".
    Real men drink whiskey, eat red meat nearly raw, and die of heart disease at an early age. It's an odd pejorative coming from an erstwhile admirer of Milo Yiannopoulos, not often thought of as a model of machismo, but it reflects the sexual insecurity of Trump followers who confuse his crudeness, aggressiveness, and cruelty with masculinity. The AltRight-AltLite phenomenon reflects the rising population of millennial male misfits that has come to populate portions of the United States. Unable to find steady jobs or stable relationships with women, these guys are understandably uncertain of their maleness, and unfortunately turn to pied pipers like Milo, Gavin McInnes, and Jordan Peterson to guide them--leading them to such mischief as Gamergate, the Proud Boys, and Patriot Prayer. "Soy Boy" is the stereotype of the un-macho male who prefers soy products to meat and is thereby contaminated with phytoestrogen which feminizes them. As a meat eater myself, I don't eat much soy, but I don't make a thing about it. Men who are secure in their masculinity don't have to prove it by a lot of chest thumping.

    Race Baiters. Classic case of pot and kettle. Trump made a political career of race baiting--first with his Birtherism, then with his ride down the escalator railing against Mexicans, and then the Muslim ban. (I know, I know, Hispanics and Muslims aren't a race, but they're the functional equivalent. According to the FBI, “Militia extremists and [groups] who advocate a belief in the superiority of the white race have sought to bring about a second civil war, often referred to as a ‘Boogaloo’ by intentionally instigating violence at First Amendment-protected activities.”
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/10/supremacists-racist-terrorists-greatest-risk-of-violence-fbi-memo/
    ‘We Are Being Eaten From Within.’ Why America Is Losing the Battle Against White Nationalist Terrorism

    Tax Hike Fetishists. I dunno. Isn't Trump talking about stimulus measures. Inevitably, sooner or later, that means more borrowing and/or taxes or a reduction in services. There's a common stereotype about tax-and-spend Democrats and borrow-and -spend Republicans, but the piper has to be paid eventually, and that usually means an increase in taxes. Trumps recently announced payroll tax cut could impact Social Security and Medicare, which depend on that tax. And Social Security is known as the "Third Rail" in American politics--just the thing for a President whose popularity is increasingly shaky.

    Time doesn't permit comment on all of the rest, but these were a few of the anomalous ones that jumped out at me.
     
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  9. unfocusedanakin

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    I would bet you have not served. I didn't either but one of my best friends is a Marine. And from what he tells me one of the most annoying things is civilians such as yourself thinking they own freedom. They often are the ones with the most right wing stickers on their truck and the ones getting the most angry over meaningless shit.

    You have done nothing to help the country but you sure have a right wing opinion on it and feel because you are the real American you can hate others. Rather then see the beauty of democracy you want blind nationalism or else you can't love the country.

    He is a socialist like me and not white. So I guess there is not much for him on the right wing. He's not welcome. He's been accused of being illegal in public for example. Even speaking with a Texas accent must mean his parents were illegal and he's the anchor baby. Now do you think it was a Democrat who bullied him and photographed his plates "so ICE can find him" or do you think it was a Republican in a red hat?

    There are certainly right wing people who serve as well but you are clueless. If you really love the country you are not afraid to call out bullshit. Right now Americans of color are suffering and people die in combat so opinions can differ.

    Why does your opinion matter more? The NFL does what it does because someone in the service said kneeling was better protest than sitting. Where is the freedom of speech? Where is the concern for your fellow man? You have none. What you do have it hate and excuses.

    And disrespecting those who ended slavery. What about the Americans who literally died to preserve the right to own men? You can't have it both ways. America is just as pro slavery as anti. Many countries had ended it prior to the Americans doing it yet if you ask the right wing they were the trailblazers on the topic.

    The branches all have problems with white supremacy now too. The people who want to serve are very racist. So it would appear the men alive now also disrespect the Americans who died in the past don't you think?

    Separate your country from cloth. When you worship a symbol over morals you are not free.
     
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  10. scratcho

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    6, you hit every possible republican talking point/meme possible in denigration of your fellow citizens all in one post.
     
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  11. Flagme15

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    That is about the dumbest thing I've heard anybody say on this forum.
    You ever been in a war?
    I had three uncles who served in the war. Two served in WW2, one served in the Korean War, and was killed.
    All three of my uncles received Purple Hearts. My two surviving uncles told me that the only war that's worth fighting is one to defend your country.
     
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  12. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    That's only your opinion.
     
  13. Flagme15

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    It's obvious that he wants to live in country where there are only whites, and women are subservient.
     
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  14. Flagme15

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    I will pay for his one way plane ticket.

     
  15. erofant

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    It's called being a RADICAL RIGHT WING-NUT. They see the world through a narrow slit the width of a paper cut.
     
  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    They have to walk miles to a polling place now do they?
     
  17. Tishomingo

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    I'm a white man and I'm old enough to remember when this country was in M-U-C-H better shape than it is today. From comments I've heard in the last 10 years or so ............... many white males think every Black or Hispanic person is a welfare-sucking, drug dealing, baby-making machine that ought to be dead. They H-A-T-E that a black man was elected President. All the country's problems are because of the Blacks and Hispanics, and to a lesser degree the Asians. They despise Asians because they have the audacity to study while in school & college and have great GPA's. The Asians come out of college making more than the school-hating, party-heads of the 1970's, 1980's, and 1990's have in years of grunt labor ................ and the "school is stupid" unskilled people don't like that. Maybe instead of focusing on keg-parties & drugs, they should have studied as their guidance counselors advised them years ago.

    Donald J. Rump has done nothing but fuel the hatred, division, and perceived permission to incite violence against any people not following his dogma.

    I know black accountants, doctors, business owners, skilled tradesmen, teachers, engineers, utility workers, truck drivers, etc. and they are NOT problems to society. And they ARE NOT the reason so many white people are struggling or have lost jobs. They can look back with love and admiration to REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT RONNIE REAGAN who began the mass migration of U.S. jobs when he announced on national TV that, "We're going to change our economy from a manufacturing-based economy to a service-based economy." That's when so many "so-called U.S. companies" packed up and left the U.S. for poverty-level labor in other countries. That's when all the factories started closing. That same fine tradition of corporate welfare continued when Bush 43 signed many so-called "free trade agreements" (poverty-level cheap labor agreements) right before he left office to repay "corporate America" for all the GIGANTIC corporate donations to the REPUBLICAN PARTY. He signed them with many, many countries.

    So bottom line is this .................... If white men in the U.S. want to hate someone for their struggles and job losses, look to blame 2 sources. RONNIE REAGAN, the BUSH DOLTS, and the REPUBLICAN PARTY ........................ and the guy in the mirror - for not taking school, college, and life-long learning seriously.
     
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    Make NO MISTAKE ............. there are a good number of people in the U.S. who would LOVE a race war. Some of those "Christian" slime have already murdered kids and adults for the stated purpose of wanting to start a race war. Bombings and guns being the means to kill. Those "godly, white Christian" folks have an eternity in hell waiting for them .................. if one believes the teachings of Jesus in the Bible.

    "Blessed are the merciful .............. for they will receive mercy." - "Blessed are the peace-makers............ for they will be called the children of God." - Jesus
     
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