This is kind of a follow up to my post psychedelic drug pushers. There is another Axis of Evil, other than what President Bush has spoken about. The Damascus Document mentions Satan's three forms of righteousness that will arise, riches, fornication, and profanation of the temple. Each of these tend to feed each other. In a perfect world, nobody would be filthy rich. In a perfect world, every child would have a responsible, wise, and loving mom and dad. In a perfect world, nobody would be prone to incestuous, adulterous, and vulgar thoughts. Each of these things is self destructive for humanity. At the same time each of them are not entirely easy to identify as harmful and(or) unfair, unless they are taken to their respective extremes. I will start with riches. I have stated at my website that I agree with much of what Rush Limbaugh says on his program. However, many of his points that I agree with are within the context and limited to this blind-leading-the-blind/false righteousness world. Rush has boasted many times about being wealthy. Rush's wealth is peanuts compared to people like Bill Gates' and Warren Buffet's. What possible rational use would these people have for having all those billions, except for the purpose of making more of it. If being rich was not such a form of righteousness to them, they would do one heck of a lot more to help the less fortunate. For example, people in African countries have had trouble getting enough food for many years. There have been attempts to help, but the aid in large part has been intercepted by corrupt dictatorships, and those who seek their own corrupt dictatorship. Barring the enlightenment of those dictators and their helpers, force would be one of the next best ways to get food through to those who desperately need it. Mr. Gates or Mr. Buffet could help by using their political clout and their money to hire bands of commandos to escort the food in. There are those who are not necessarily rich, but they seek to have the appearance of being wealthy. Economic forces often require that both the wife as well as the husband work away from home. This allows them to have the wealth and(or) wealthy appearance they seek. The children are typically shuffed off to so-called day care. While it is possible that this family's main fault is seeking riches, the children at day care will be influenced by children with even less guidance. In turn they indulge in fornication and profanation of the temple as well as their parent's net, riches. A person growing up in a cold hearted first net world, will do things to surpress the pain in different ways. They will not only carry the torch for the first net, they will indulge themselves in one or both of the other nets. They will produce children with even less guidance yet. They will produce children who are aborted for no good reason. They are aborted for superficial reasons. One of these reasons might be that the would-be mother and father are too young to 'properly bring up' a child in a large house with a three car garage. Another reason might be that the would-be mother and father are too caught up in the if it feels good do it lifestyle. In the mind of a would-be mother, stretch marks could ruin her look, and her superficial loving relationship with a man. Then inventions come along, like the condom and the pill, and the dynamics change. Now sexual indulgance can continue, except for the occasional misuse and(or) malfunction of one of those inventions. Now there is a new attitude about sex that develops in popular culture. Sex becomes a sport, a casual activity, and a peer pressure badge of acceptance. There was a slogan make love, not war. This helped pop culture peddlers sell their items to further their riches. The cycle continued. In all this time that pop culture was selling their ideas and inventions, there were people who did not fit the perfect pop culture image. If they were imperfect becuse they were rather poor, but had attractive physical features, they might choose to marry someone mainly for his or her riches, which would in turn increase risk of a break up and emotionally scarred children. The same person with a slightly less moral up bringing might choose to have sex before marriage with an already wealthy person, mainly for his or her riches. Yet again, the same person with a bad moral up bringing might choose to make pornography. This might be just a stepping stone in gaining riches. Still others who did not fit the, perfect pop culture image, who were plain ordinary or physically unattractive. Again, these people will often strive to fit in with pop culture. As sex became a sport, these people were left on the bench, so-to-speak(I include myself among these). Age old concepts like the sacredness of sex were being abandoned, however. This opened the door for, and feed twisted reasons for sexual acts, including homosexual acts, rape and child molestation. There are many variables of course, each individual is not quite the same. Each of us are born into our own special set of circumstances. This is generally how all three nets of Satan tie together and compliment each other. Profanation of the Temple can take many forms, as the human body is the Temple. These forms can include some forms of medical science and medically assisted reproduction, homosexual acts, and polygamy. It is really not very difficult to recognize these things as self destructive behavior as well as mankind destructive behavior. Many out there, just prefer to look on the bright sunny side of things. You do not bother looking beyond yourselves, and the here and now. Looking at the long term is the wise thing. Before such things as light bulbs, cars, airplanes, test tube babies and cloning, it was much easier for people to recognize reality. Messing with human reproduction in major ways is like fixing something that is not broken. However, if the messing continues in major ways, any problems that we do have will only be mutiplied. As we seek a more kind and gentle humanity, than the humanity of our past, we must combine some aspects of natural sellection with modern knowledge about DNA. Instead of going wild in the lab making human embryos just to destroy them in the name of medical progress, we must take a different attitude about what is progess. A major attitude that needs changing is the one that says, THIS IS WHAT I WANT AND I AM GOING TO HAVE IT. In the past, when a young man and a young woman sought to get married, neither had the ability to know each other's DNA traits or even blood types. Many of the inherited diseases, and birth defects, were had, and unknowingly passed on. People can have the ability to know each other's genetic traits early on in their relationship to avoid such things as broken hearts and shattered hopes. It would be their choice of course to risk it for the sake of their love. Life is not life without some risk. They would be wise to realize that the possible child might well pay the price for their, THIS IS WHAT I WANT AND I AM GOING TO HAVE IT, attitude. A wiser move would be to adopt. True homosexuals and homosexual acts are two different things. Only God and the individuals themselves can know if they are true homosexuals, in most cases. Yes...Yes...Oh Yes..., the choice to partake in homosexual acts is made by true homosexuals, bisexuals, and yes even heterosexuals, these days. Even though nearly all of the above individuals could likely choose to have a good and healthy heterosexual marriage and family if it was in their hearts. The problem is EVERY individual on the face of the Earth has the potential to be stubborn in their hearts and choose death and not the continuation of life. This potential, while very remote, becomes less and less remote the more we exalt homosexual acting clergymen and same sex marriages are sanctioned. There will undoubtedly be those who will stubbornly refuse to accept the things that I am saying. There will also undoubtedly be those who will accept what I am saying. The day is coming, when we will begin to distinguish who is who, and go our seperate ways. Those who choose to, do it if it feels good, and do not believe in contemplating consequences can go their way. You can carry on with your homosexual acts, your orgies and your vanity. You can have your made in the lab. The rest of us will choose a tried and proven lifestyle, made better by knowledge gained. Remember how many of us felt after 9/11/01? It was not very long before many of us were back to our old ways. Here is another relavant portion of the Damascus Document: And every member of the House of Seperation who went out of the Holy City and leaned on God at the time when Israel sinned and defiled the Temple, but returned again to the way of the people in small matters, shall be judged according to his spirit in the Council of Holiness. But when the glory of God is made manifest to Israel, all those members of the Covenant who have breached the bound of the Law shall be cut off from the midst of the camp, and with them all those who condemned Judah in the days of it's trials. But all those who heed the voice of the Teacher and confess before God,(saying), 'Truly we have sinned , we and our fathers, by walking counter to the precepts of the Covenant, Thy judgements upon us are justice and truth'..... It is important to note that the writer(s) of the Dead Sea Scrolls left room for changes in the future, in their writings. Refering to scroll fragments 4Q 397 to 4Q 398, the author warns against mingling with other peoples. Whether the author means people of different races or just people of different beliefs does not really matter. These days it is certainly the wrong way to go. One plausible reason for seperation from other peoples may be for clarity of thought and concentration on God's will. This may have been the root source of the rule, but the rule was altered over the years, to become a more discriminatory rule. Srcoll number 4Q 398: Understand all these matters and ask Him to straighten your counsel and put you far away from thoughts of evil and counsel of Belial(Satan). Consequently, you will rejoice at the end time when you discover that some of our sayings are true. So, we can say that they made rule that seemed to suit their place and time, and also rules for ALL time(for humans). The fragments above, are from Geza Vermes' latest version, The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English. I believe that some rules held sacred in ancient times had their roots in practical value(for the time that they were made). I am talking about such things as not eating pork. They did not understand that thoroughly cooking pork would eliminate the threat of tapeworm disease. Not all old rules are to be put aside. No matter how wise some of us are, basic human emotions and reactions tend to stay the same. Basic rules like the Ten Commandments are not to be scoffed at. They are not a tool of fear as some might claim. They are meant to keep wise, but tempted people in check, including myself of course. If it were left up to all of us to make our own rules, then chaos would be the real leader. In an ideal world, there would be no middle ground when it comes to sexuality. Even though we do not live in a perfect world, we must never stop TRYING to be perfect. This will ensure that our own intelligence does not get the best of us. This is another idea the Damascus Document addresses: They banded together against the life of the righteousness(Ps. 94: 21) and loathed all who walked in perfection.....I heard on the news recently how a boy was expelled from school for reading the Bible during RECESS. I do not doubt that there are worse cases of persecution. From the Our Father Prayer....forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.... This is not a ticket to do anything that we would like(or think that we would like).
Complete and utter loss of any and all credibility, paragraph 3, line 2. Congratulations! OK Thanks bye...
Sounds like you to me. Did you ever consider that God makes people the way they are for a reason (Gay, Straight, Islamic, Christian, even those who do not see this simple truth (such as you) because they have yet to be purified by the fires of hell)? To have faith in God is to be above the silly laws that did nothing but cover up your lack of faith in God. Someone who follows the law is not saved, because they think by following the law they are placing faith in God. Following the law simply covers up your lack of faith (sin). If you truly have faith in God, you will not worry about the laws, because you will fulfill all of them, even if it appears as if you don't follow the law to one who does not understand the law.
Are those words that you read in my above posting? You seem to be very picky about them. I also mentioned The Lords Prayer or The Our Father Prayer. The true religion will be had, when the people of the world can give up fighting over it. This religion will likely have a combination of every religion that there ever was. Have you taken your narrow mind to my website and read it thoroughly?
did Jesus Christ say something along the lines of Why do you call me good, the only one who is good is The Father...or somethign like that it is the flesh which causes us to sin, is it no...then woulnt it be safe to say that any person with flesh will sin, as we cannot possibly be perfect, we can try are darnest, and ask for forgiveness when we do screw up, cause lets face it, we will [screw up that is]... also, although there is a small double standard for the predjeduce towards Christains as opposed to other faiths does exist slightly to some extent, i dont think it is anything to get worried about...basically because there are other peoples out there who are more at risk... and about the kid who was suspended for reading a Bible, maybe the school has a rule about religious things at school, like in France [well with france though, they tried to ban the muslim things, but coulnt so they banned everything]
Really? I guess if you want to spread humor, you can say the stuff you are saying. But to spout it off as truth, come on! Including all of the religions based on psychedelic experiences as well as other spiritual experieces? No. I glanced at it, but it didn't draw me in. It seems judgemental and uninformed, although you could just be joking.
When I said, a combination of every religion that there ever was, I meant after all the wast product has been removed.
No, I have not. What I agree with is what you have stated in regards to the self destruction of humanity, sexual indulgence, profanity of the temple, etc. Your comment in regards to religion was true... in a sense. There will be a one world religion (a man made institution that is not of God) that dominates during the end times.
Has anyone here actually listened to him(Rush Limbaugh) objectively and followed up on the things he says? He makes a lot of sense most of the time.
I saw a new thread having to do with homosexuality and Christianity. Even though the Dead Sea Scrolls are not considered part of main stream theology of Christianity, they are very relevent. The Dead Sea Scrolls are from about 100 B.C. Those who wrote the scrolls saw the need for an overhaul of Judism as practiced in their era. Christianity happened to be the result of this overhaul, which began before Jesus came on the scene. In some ways though the overhaul was worse than the corrupt Judism. But anyway, here is a passage from the Damasus Rule which is one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Interpreted, these are the three nets of Satan with which Levi son of Jacob said that he catches Israel by stting them up as three kinds of righteousness. The firstis riches, the second is fornication, and the third is profanation of the Temple. Whoever escapes the first is caught in the second, and whoever saves himself from the second is caught in the third(Isa. 24). In America and in much of the world these things have gone from being social taboos, to being virtual forms of righteousness, since the early 1970's. I believe that backlash is really being felt more recently. But here are just a few examples of the three nets. (1) Lotteries, casinos, and personal debt have risen. There is at least one casino in nearly every state. Then there are the junk lawsuits. (2) There is the simultaneous popularity of teen pregnancy, abortion, and sexual stimulants. (3) Now we have the exaltation of homosexual clergymen, and the sanctioning of same sex marriage. It will help you to grasp what I am saying by also reading another of my threads psychedelic drug pushers. Have a nice day.