The amount of choice in modern life.

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Bilby, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. Bilby

    Bilby Freerangertarian Staff Member Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    We have far more choice in modern life than in generations past but does this make us unhappy? I think it can do to some degree if you are not careful.
     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    It depends on what you choose.
     
  3. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    More choice? Elaborate! :).
     
  4. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

    Hey, like the choice for the ever improving football player: kick it under the cross bar, or kick it to the opposite side of the goal net the goal keeper is psychically ...to dive for. Some people get ever better at using their electronic phone device by the choice to leave it at home or not.:afro:
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    more choices, doesn't always equal more choice. you can have a hundred different soup can labels, with exactly the same soup, out of the same vat, off the same production line, inside of each of them. that's choices. but it isn't choice.
     
  6. FranklinS

    FranklinS Member

    The world is becoming homogenized which reduces choice. I hate modern culture, but there are very few alternatives.
     
  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    there are actually infinite alternatives, but also a very steep wall of prejudice against even looking for or at any of them.

    also it is not natural reality that is becoming homogenized, but human perspectives of perception.
     
  8. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

    So the problem is we don't choose how we communicate. We communicate how we choose. And there is the religious un-stopable question in the debate here: must people find that the phenomenological "perspective", as you call it, really need to be a quantitative sort of "thing"? There is the Nature of the prophesy by the prophet for the profit.

    So natural reality is being self-deceived into production; thus the prejudice is for the Life of the producer over the Life of more creative endeavours.

    Or must we necessarily "be-alive" as Creators? :biker:
     
  9. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

    What we have today is greater alienation, greater static, but most of all------greater control through the spectacle.

    I wrote about this on another thread:




    The greater choices in modern life simply alienate us further from our own humanity, as they represent a manipulation to consume, and to become further dependent upon, and intimately connected to the spectacle---which is also to become more dependent upon, and intimately a part of the status-quo-Joe-public.

    As choices expand--freedoms expand (not necessarily political freedom mind you, but existential freedom)---Kierkegaard in the 1800's wrote that Freedom creates anxiety. Think about it: Freedom represents possibilities, each one with its own inherent risk, responsibility for choices made, consequences, the possibility of breaking away (from conformity, status quo, god, family, whatever).

    So there are two issues presented by freedom: 1.) The greater freedom of choice presents an anxiety inherent within the freedom it presents; 2.) the implication of a freedom of breaking away----becoming a non-conformist and therefore (as Kierkegaard would say) an authentic human being. The latter case represents that possibility of breaking through that alienation. But it is still that same freedom-based anxiety, only that it is perhaps a greater anxiety, than giving into the spectacle. This is because, as Kierkegaard believed, people hide from such anxiety and bury themselves behind ideologies, and in-groups (giving away control to others), and most certainly the status quo---the public. So either way---hiding behind a choice of freedom to non-conformity, or giving in to the freedom of choice presented by the spectacle---presents anxiety. The difference is that in the latter case, while one does not face the dread of true freedom, one is still less authentic, and has the added anxiety of alienation--being unable to reconnect to one's true self.
     
  10. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

    Here is the song that is mentioned in the previous post:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyLpHOfTHP4"]Static Revenger - Turn The World On (ft. Dev) (Protohype & Kezwik Remix) - YouTube
     
  11. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

    You can have everything.As long as it's this...Loneliness,Isolation,fear,debt,psychosis,drug addiction,alcoholism,obesity,anorexia,boredom...Take your pick.
     

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