Thc Potency Of Leaves Compared To Buds.

Lately I've been given some trimmings from a friend who grows his own since he know I'll make brownies with them. After harvesting it all I ended up with a bunch of leaves and small buds. Before turning it all into brownie powder I smoked a little of the buds and then later made a joint out of the leaves and compared the highs. I get the impression that leaves have 1/4 - 1/3 the potency of buds. I've tried to find a site online that can confirm or refute that but there was nothing specific. So 1/4 to 1/3, what do you think, am i in the ballpark?

 

Sugar trim or fan leaf? Some strains do not have much sugar trim, others have too much. I say potency is subjective to tolerance.

 

Let's just say on average.

 

Get some dry sift screens and see what you get. Trim can be potent but probably not a quarter as potent as the flowers. Depends on how abused the trichromes heads are, they can fall off easily. Make some sift and see if she melts.

 

Erowid seems to think you can get high off of the leaves as well as the buds. I've been around long enough to know that this probably isn't the best way to get high. In fact I don't even smoke anymore. I've gone to strictly edibles. You can access the Erowid link here > https://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info16.shtml. But there seem to be some misconceptions. It's like they're talking out the side of their neck. You'll see...

 

I have used fan leaf from veg plants for relief, not stoned or skyrocket.

 

Yeah the fan leaves have some tricomes on them it will do for edibles. But not nearly as much as the flower. I would say the 1/3 to 1/4 estimate is about right.

 

95% of the THC is in the buds and only 5% in the leaves? That's ridiculous. That means I'd have to take 19 tokes off leaves to get as high as 1 toke off buds. Bullshit!

 

There is an agricultural research center in town here. They have been strongly rumored to research cannabis. I heard a rumor many years ago that supposedly originated there. They said feeding the plants maple syrup makes the leaf as potent as the bud. I know that this is BS as it would be similar to feeding the micro-herd in the soil black-strap.

 

I know in Canada when they say that Cannabis in the early-mid 70's was only 3%-4% THC that was based on seizures of Cannabis made in Canada and not a lot of local growing back then and even now if they make a bust before the plant flowers and produces Buds, all you are going to get is leaf so those numbers are probably right. This was back when Panama Red was Red and from Panama, Acapulco Gold, same thing origin and colour, it was descriptive Mexican Brick Weed was just that, lot's of stalk and seeds, $25/oz $60/qp $200/lb this is early 1975, then the DEA was kind enough to go to mexico and spray it all with paraquat and i was gone over night replaced by colombian $50-$60/oz, then everything was just hydro, but that just referred to the hydroponic growing. My first attempt to buy pot had me tried to be sold, a bag of spices for $25, but I wasn't fooled and ended up buying a gram of Honey Oil for $25, that had the pot heads asking where the hell I got it and offering me up to $40. The guy who tried to burn me eventually became someone I bought from but mostly LSD, oh how I loved my LSD. I have been a licensed medical marijuana user for almost 7 years now.

While the majority of the THC is in the Buds, and the leaves may only contain 5% or less THC, the Buds are not pure THC in fact anything in the 30% range is very potent, in fact when I was still a recreational user I could get good leaf for free as often I just wanted to catch a buzz not get stoned, which was becoming harder and harder to do, I couldn't sit back and enjoy a joint. Now I'm am probably a 10-15 gram a day user minimum, and just had someone make me an ounce of BHO, luckily I still have a person who is licenced to grow my medication for me, currently smoking , Purple Kush,OG Kush, Vanilla Kush, Exodus Cheese, and Chocolate Thai, my personal coming in 1/4 and 1/2 lbs still freaks me out, last visit 4 qp's it's why I don't know how much I smoke as it's big bags.

Perceived potency can be affected by many factors, and it also makes a difference whether it's a 80/20 Sativa dominant strain like Chocolate Thai or an 80/20 Indica Dominant strain like Purple Kush, as even same % THC produces very different reaction, with Sativa's being what as a teen I would have called head stone weed and Indica's are body stone weed, but now there are 1,000's of strains probably I've probably tried close to 100 myself, all different and affect people differently. I am of course looking at this as a medical user, and to be honest it's not as great as it sounds, as I have to smoke it, vape it, eat it, it's not an option, but neither were the opiates and other drugs, as I also suffer from Schizophrenia, ADD, PTSD, an anxiety disorder, Fibromyalgia, chronic intractable migraine pain (current one started in fall of 1999) and still have some postherpetic neuralgic nerve pain after getting shingles (the less scary than herpes zoster name like cold sore for herpes simplex) primarily around my left eye, I didn't know your hair could hurt, but I couldn't put my head on a pillow even, kiss 3 1/2 years opiate free goodbye, but my use was as minimal as possible as 2 percocet at bedtime as required got me 4 hours sleep and may not sound like much, but I had an oxycontin abuse problem for over 4 years after 4 without one, and even went methadone for pain, 10 years of daily opiate use of at least 60 mg Oxycontin 3 times a day, but a binge and I was a binge snorter could have me snorting 400-500 mg/day and for a while it was an oxy/ritalin combo as I was and am taking 40 mg Ritalin SR twice a day., but I had to be careful as I was on wellbutrin and used to have tiny seizures or what felt like it.

Our Prime Minister is so screwed with Canada supposedly going legal sometime in 2017, they couldn't even run a medical marijuana program and he inherited a real mess from his evil predecessor King Stephen, who was against even considering decriminalization and wanted to bring in mandatory minimum sentencing for any growing, the Feds actually lost something like$500,000 selling cannabis, if you purchased from them you could get it now pay later and run a tab, until you hit some number and got cut off, but you had to suffer from a chronic debilitating or terminal illness to qualify, and the disabled are broke, so they had to sell the debt to collection agencies for pennies on the dollar that was very end of 2009, and in 2010 Hellth Canada basically shut down the program, part of the problem is nobody knew how the program worked as the wording confused many, and every gram per day your doctor proposed you would need which also read not more than x grams per day, came with a 5 plant grow licence, either you could grow it or find someone who would grow it for you, or buy it from Hellth Canada, $5.65/gram with tax (they were sued in what's known as Hitzig V Canada 2003, prior to this there was no legal source to buy it and even seeds were illegal so your first crop always involved breaking the law, it started in 2001 and the whole program is based on Supreme Court decisions, my licence and my growers expired on march 31st 2014, when all growing was to cease in fact any cannabis I had in my possession obtained legally from my grower or if you grew your own supply had to be destroyed and rendered unsmokable, but since they had to send a long document to 37,000 people they decided to save a few buck and send it bulk letter mail, so wrapped in plastic with a cover page including complete with a little canadian flag next to it, Health Canada's Medical Marijuana Access Divisions return address, violating the Personal Health Information Protection Act, as anyone who saw the mail knew I was a licensed user. They also pushed that 1-3 grams per day was enough for anyone no matter how it was consumed, and I had to sign a longer waiver as my doc authorized more than 5 grams but doctors started authorizing larger amount 1-3 gram 5-15 plants., but 10g 49 plants and 15g's became common and as long as it was your principal residence you didn't even have to tell your landlord PHIPA again even the police could only be told you had a legal grow-op if it was during the course of an investigation, before they raid your grow HC will tell them it's legal, but I knew someone with a 120 gram a day licence which would allow 588 plants for personal yeah right, but it was the life blood of many compassion clubs as it was mostly grey market, sold cheap by sick people for sick people and basically written into the regs, as they were the only place you could buy from at first, but they were selling it illegally, I argued that I thought it was illegal to sell it to me but not illegal for me to buy it from them, seller guilty of trafficking, buyer possession or possession weith intent to sell depending on the amount, but I had an Authorization to Possess up to 30 times my daily limit, exempting me from the Possession Law aslong as Iwas under my limit, I was safe.

I am not pro-legalization until they get an affordable medical program in place, I would be forced to buy black market cannabis as $10/g would put me in the $3500-$4500 a month range cheaper to buy pounds, I saw a show probably about a year ago on the licenced producers and he puts a big bag of cannabis on a scale 2,500 grams and when asked the value he said $25,000, not when you are buying 5.5 lbs, I know truly sick people who scrape together change to buy their medication. So about the long rambling rant but I am preparing to take action and have put together a really good network on linkedin guess over a decade as a Mental Health and Addictions Rights Advocate is paying off, I've sat on Boards, and Ministry of Health Steering Committees, etc. I messaged an anesthesiologist, Chronic Pain Specialist, Medical Marijuana Specialist last night, and my Marijuana For Trauma M.D. connection, and am working with as an Advocate for Canadian Veterans, and First Responders, yes that includes Police, but it's around PTSD, I am also advocating it's use for pain naturally, and am connected to the Founder of an american compassionate care for veterans group. .

 

​Thank you schizo1988. You said so much and never came close to answering my question.

​This isn't a difficult question. Forget all the variables and blurt out a rough estimate. WHAT IS THE POTENCY OF LEAVES COMPARED TO BUDS?!! Am I close when I guess 1/4 - 1/3 as potent?

 

LOL......


yeah, about 1/3 for top/secondary leaves, considerably less for the main/big fan leaves, in my experience.
it all has to do with the density of trichomes on the plant surfaces, but you already know that.

 

Thanks for the clear answer. You're not so noxious after all!

 

Let me chime in if I may.
I have smoked a LOT of leaves before and let me tell you that they can give you a pretty nice high.Now let me tell you that the high you get from leaves is quite different from the buds, I reckon cause the different amounts of cannabanoids (other than THC) that they have.
From the same plant the buds will always give a deeper and more immersive high than the leaves, and the leaf high would be pretty strong but still would be more like sativa and would not have any "depth" to it.But I would agree with the 1/3 THC content statement it's just that people think it's lesser than that because of the diffrent highs that you get and they just simply fail to give a decent comparison.