Taste Tripping

i'm sure some of you guys must have heard about "miracle fruit" or "miracle berries." they are the fruit of the plant Synsepalum dulcificum. they contain a glycoprotein that binds to your taste buds and makes sour foods taste very sweet. it possibly works by altering the shape of taste receptors, which goes back to normal after the glycoprotein is washed away by saliva (about an hour).

i might buy a pack of these tablets, or some actual dried berries online, and "taste-trip" with my brother.

also, the idea just occurred to me that i could try this while actually tripping on a psychedelic (of course after trying them solo first).

who thinks these berries would be interesting to ingest? sober and/or tripping?
who thinks it's stupid?

 

Sounds very interesting. Where does one procure this fruit?

 

I would try it for sure.

 

Very interesting.

What's the fruits common name, and where does it grow?

 

I'd really want to try this.

I was actually wondering if it is possibile to taste trip, but didn't knew there is a plant which does that.

 

Awesome!

 

looks like writer answered your questions, roorshack (with that wiki article )
commonly called the miracle fruit (tree?) and native to west africa.

one can procure this fruit or the tablets of its pulp online at popular auction sites, and at think geek

i guess i hadn't read the complete wiki article, because i just learned that they made transgenic tomato plants that produce the same glycoprotein; miraculin.
also that the fruit only has a shelf life of 2-3 days. i guess i might be better off buying the tablets.
i can get 10 tablets (20 doses) for about $17
or 5 fresh fruits for about $13

 

imagine taking this stuff with DiPT (most an auditory trip from what i've read) and possibly with another more typical psychedelic

 

Pork that's a great find! I'm interested
If you try them, tell me how it goes will ya? Haha

I'd try it sober, and then tripping, sounds incredible!

 

my wife was nervous at the thought of trying these things, and even maybe a bit judgmental about my curiosity to try them.

i asked her in a teasing way "what, are you worried that your taste would be changed FOREVER?"

maybe she wouldn't be nervous if she read a tiny bit about them.


....after trying to talk to her about these a little bit, i feel like she's equating eating these berries to IVing heroin

 

That's strange that she would react like that. She knows about all the drugs you do... but berries are forbidden.

That being said I'm super interested and going to look in to acquiring some.

 

she basically dislikes my "obsession with altered states" and my constant and excessive weed smoking.
(though it was not in my vows to take fewer drugs. )
FM(married)L
just venting

and she doesn't care specifically about the berries, so i think i will buy them soon.:devil:

all i really wanted to do was go talk to her about this topic. see for myself what she thought about them, before i speculated to you guys about it. i literally stopped mid-post and went and struck up a conversation about it. she perceived it as me pressuring her to try the berries, but i was really only trying to see why she would be so apprehensive about doing so.

 

hahaa ladies, they are all the same I tell ya!

 

Looooool......

But, they're like drugs for your mouth, and we know drugs are bad.

If she's from a strict reality/drugs are bad type of background, that can run VERY deep, even when people rationally know better about some substances. I think this is because of the self reinforcing chain that usually causes a dislike of altered states: a fear of change than causes a fear of (or even crusade against) a change of view or understanding. And like many fears, it becomes irrational and all-encompasing.

Not trying to rip on your wife, or anything. I have many close friends and family who are the same. I have given up telling them that oxygen and sugar are drugs and that each chemical must be judged individually...... because they're just drugs and we all know about THOSE and the people who take them :willy_nilly:

 

oh mah god, sour patch kids would be backwards!

 

There's a better one, Capsacum annum var. glabriusculum. You should try it.

 

good idea!


i wonder what this does to food that are already sweet?

 

I got a pack of some gum containing the berry extract. It definitely works.
I still have some in a drawer somewhere. (I think from ebay...or amazon...)
At the time, the berries were pretty scarce because of a NYTimes article and related news reports, so the gum was much cheaper.

It's been a while, but it was pretty amazing. We all sucked on lemons and it really tasted like lemon aid.
Everything tasted a little different even if it wasn't particularly sour.

I never really though of it not being safe. We had kids try it too without thinking much about it.

We didn't plan ahead enough to get more stuff to try. I really wanted to try beer, because I heard it tasted like soda...but didn't have any on hand.
I wish I remember more about it and what else we tried. We may have tried unsweetened chocolate...but I'm not really sure. We definitely all tried lemon and loved it.

I remember reading a thread about it somewhere where someone wanted to try using it to make cactus tea easier to swallow. The person who tried said it didn't help much though.

So, it is pretty interesting stuff. It makes you wonder how things would be different if our taste buds evolved differently. It also makes you wonder how different genetic variations may make food taste to different people.

Anyway....I should pull them out again. It's been at least a year. I hope they are still good.

It might be interesting to try tripping. What I'd really like to do is trip with some friends and pull it out after we are tripping. That would blow their minds if they had never heard of it before.

(I remember a long long time ago, David Letterman tried the berries on the show. Long before they NYTimes article that came out a while back. Probably when he was on NBC even. I remember being pretty intrigued, but had no idea where to get them. It was some exotic plant specialist or something similar who brought them on the show.)

 

nice post, peacegrow.

i've heard of these before, but i was reminded of them by this show i'm watching on netflix (the united states of tara). they tried the berries in the show and were eating all kinds of stuff - lemons, hot sauce, and beer which they said tasted like a milkshake.

how could you give that stuff to a child? you bastard!!!!

i like you thoughts about genetic variation and taste buds evolving differently.

 

Awesome thread! I think im gonna try obtain one of these plants and have a shot at growing my own berries