Taking Mimosa Hostillis and Syrian Rue via gel caps?

A friend and I are planning on trying DMT sometime next month. We were planning on ordering some Mimosa Hostillis and Syrian Rue and I havbe a couple questions.

1. Can you just put the Mimosa and Syrian Rue in gel caps and take it that way?

2. If so, when should I take them? (Syrian Rue 30min prior to Mimosa, same time, etc.)

3. How much should we take of each?

4. Any recommendations of where I should order the supplies?

Thanks for the help

 

I think you might have to cook it down to release the goodness.

If you can eat it raw, your going to be eating a whole bunch of gel capsules.

Make sure to read as much as you can about the experience and the preparations before hand.

There is a MAOI diet that you must take part in before you go on your journey.

 

These are not easy questions as I have had difficulty with pharmahuasca.

I know for a FACT that if you take the seeds and grind them up finely and put them in gel caps and then take freebase DMT and swig it in orange juice, that it does in fact work quite well. Though I find rue to be a harsh teacher.

I have never tried it with straight MHRB.

Many folks do like to at least do a hot water extraction with rue to get some of the more toxic and nausea producing elements out. That just involves doing a simple boil/simmer and reduction. I do NOT have quantities or times on this, but you can search the internet for more I am sure.

Regarding dosing - if you use finely ground seeds, 2.5 to 3.0 grams should do it fine; 3.5-4.0 will blow you away.

MHRB is close to 3% DMT, therefore, you should probably just take 2-3 grams for the for first time.

Wonderful thing about pharma is if you like it, just have some more pills ready, inhibit MAO again and take DMT (MHRB) again - you can literally trip for days if you dare/want to. Though I always recommend integration breaks between deep journeys to maximize benefits . . . and sanity.

One final thing - put a BIG hole (or more than one) in those gel caps to ensure easy and fast release.

Sadly, no suppliers come to mind. MHRB is hard to find these days. I believe Syrian rue is available all over, including eBay and Amazon.

Edit/PS: Timing - Take the Syrian Rue first then wait a good 30-40 mins (more like 30 if you put a hole in your gel caps) - until you feel a little something IF you have freebase DMT. BUT with MHRB, you should probably dose them at the same time or the MHRB just a bit after the Syrian Rue, like 10 mins. or so.

 

Keep in mind what syrian rue actually is and does. It is an Monoamine Oxidase inhibitor which means it basically turns off the monoamine oxidase enzymes in your body. All you need to do is eat enough rue to effectively do this and as said above, that dose is about 2.5 to 4 grams. It is much more reliable to do an extraction on the Rue to get harmala/harmaline alkaloids so you can dose more accurately. Also while under the influence, for a short time before and after, you should follow MAOI diet restrictions. You can cause yourself some great trouble if you're careless about eating MAOIs.

The same goes for the DMT. Mimosa Hostillis DMT content will vary greatly. You'll never know exactly how much DMT you're taking, only have a solid guess. The content will be anywhere from .5% all the way up to around 2%. If you perform extractions, it is really much easier to gauge the dose and have an enjoyable experience.

Not to mention the nausea with eating straight rue and bark would be horrible and you probably won't be able to digest the material very well. Your stomach won't break down rootbark very well, same goes for rue seeds. If ground up, sure might be able to get something but you're going for the least effective and most nauseous attempt.

If you're really not interested in extracting mimosa and rue then you should look into Ayahuasca. Its the same thing but using two different plants. You can get by much easier making tea with these two plants because they are leaves and will not containt nearly the amount of tannins/fat/waxes that rootbark will contain. There are several websites dedicated to this topic you can easily find through google...