So, Im wondering how shrooms and Syrian Rue/Harmal/Pergamum Harmala seeds affect the experience. Supposedly the syrian rue can more or less double the intensity of the mushrooms(eating a 1.5g shrooms and some rue is like eating 3g+ shrooms). Others have said it not only intensifies and lengthens the trip, but changes the effects somewhat. Like it can shift the trip into more of a DMT-like aura. The info I've read said to consume about 1g-3g of seeds per gram of shrooms you intend to eat about 30 min-1hr prior to eating the mushies. I've also heard that the seeds should be powdered, if not extracted into it's pure Harmala Alkaloids. Some have also said that the Harmal can be smoked mid-trip to engage a turbo-boost, if you will. As a downside, Syrian Rue can cause nausea if not extracted, and with MAOI's you have to be very careful what you consume. How can one counteract the nausea? I've heard ginger is good? Should the ginger be taken in the form of a tea, or fresh, ala the stuff you get with Sushi? Will probably be researching this topic first-hand this weekend. Would like to be as prepared as possible. :sultan:
I think someone on here (maybe porky?) told me that you don't need a MAOI diet with harmala MAOI's, and that's just for pharms. But I could be wrong, or whoever told me could be wrong, or I could be imagining shit But I do know it's more like ayahausca with syrian rue, and will be much more likely to kick your ass if you try to do normal shroom things on it. ie. don't do it and go to a show, unless you think you could handle that on ayahausca
I think pharmaceutical MAOI's are much longer lasting. I believe harmala is what is known as 'reversible', which from what I understood is a much shorter acting MAOI. I've heard of this mix referred to as Shroomahuasca before..Sounds appealing. As uncomfortable and world-shaking ++++ trips can be, intrigue and curiosity gets the better of me. Flight Plan: Fast for 12 hours Prepare about a litre of ginger tea with root powder/coffee pot, sweeten with honey Consume powdered Syrian Rue seeds, 2 grams Wait 45 min Powdered cubensis, 2 grams in a lemon/honey shot Sip ginger tea as needed Ease into the onset with Kundalini Yoga Experiment with taking hits of rue seed from a pipe Keep Audio/Written notes for later trip report
You don't need a special diet for Syrian Rue, it has a different kind of MAOI in it that is reversible and doesn't process tyramine from food. Just watch out for medicinal interactions. MAOI + any tryptamine is going to MORE than double the intensity and lengthen it significantly, so careful!
Is it safe to eat the syrian rue seed powder straight up, or would an extraction be mandatory? I've seen conflicting reports there..Some say 3g-6g is a good amount. Others say anything more than 4g is asking for an intestinal holocaust. I suppose I can eat a dose of around 3g as a test run to make sure it won't cause adverse nausea. Or scrap that idea entirely and just acquire some moclobemide. What have your experiences with Syrian Rue been, Mr.Writer?
Do test runs. I still have a lot of it, used to eat it to potentiate cannabis. Found that 2-3g gave me at most a passing stomach complaint, and I have GI issues, so I found it pretty mild in that regard, though your gut will be a lot more stimulated on mushrooms. I just ate the seeds whole, swallowed down with some water.
