Opinions? Is it ever acceptable? If someone, for years, has felt like they dont belong, and has persisted in unhappiness, and has finally lost all patience and hope that it will improve, would it be permissible for them to end their life? Should others respect their decision?
I don't see anything wrong with it morally. It really just is the pussy and weak way out. A real man fixes his problems... and there is always a way to fix them, no excuse.
People are free to do what they do. Wanna cut your shit open? Ok. Can I get your stereo, is usually my first question....
Yeah. I do think there comes a point where nothing and nobody can help a person. No more options. No: It'll be better in the morning. I don't respect peoples choice...but can see why some people would.
i think its perfectly acceptable if you have nobody that depends on you, and if the people that love you are aware of and accepting of your decision. in some cases i think it is acceptable for a way out (desperation) but when its done because of things like depression or heartbreak, it is usually very selfish and causes more harm for people around you than it does good for you. i plan to go on my own terms if i ever get really old. i would prefer to know when and how i'll go, get a chance to wrap up loose ends and go peacefully. i think that suicide is acceptable in the abstract, and have no inherent moral objection to it, but as with anything it can become totally unacceptable under certain circumstances. (a teenage "outcast" with a loving family, a father over his head in debt whose children will inheret said debt, etc.)
The thread did not address those issues. But sure... whatever... kill yourself if you really want to.
life is your`s and you can do with your life whatever you find best for it. if you want to die, that does not give other people the right to try and stop you from dieing. it`s your decision, it`s your choice
not directly, but i read it as asking for general opinions about it suicide. it did ask "is it ever acceptable?" of course arlandis offered a particularly morbid example, but you have to remember its arlandis, and he's mister supergloom.
If a guy wants to commit suicide but takes to long he can be pushed off a bridge...in my opinion, and others seem to agree. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069686.stm http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE54O3BW20090525
Sure, but then you can find a bunch of sub-cases, like you did. Can a single mother with 26 dependent children commit suicide? ...and so on and forth. It's hard to speak in absolutes about this topic. But in general... suicide is a-ok.
I really can't differ with this- what BSR said is fundamentally true... further, there's very little that happens to a person that they didn't in one way or another bring on themselves so suicide seems just a cop-out.
Yeah... if you're depressed... change your environment, your habits, your friends. If you're broke, declare bankruptcy. If you're addicted, get clean. ...and so on. I can understand someone who is in extreme pain killing themselves... or getting a good friend to do it.
How about a guy who injures his back at work, and his doctor is a complete fuck off, so the pain just keeps getting more and more agonizing with no relief, no answers from the doctor, zero help at all? And to make matters worse, the doctor REFUSES to release said patient's medical records to another physician. Now, of course you can sue, but as everyone who tries to sue anyone finds out, it's expensive as fuck to get the ball rolling, VERY hard, a long, drawn out process, and well, there's still no pain relief this whole time. Daniel's uncle went through this shit, and he was to the point, it was all he had left in him to get a gun and just end it. A real man can fix his problems, IF they are fixable. I don't see how living in excruciating pain the rest of your life is worth it or fixable. On the same subject, a bird flew into our window at work and died on the sidewalk. Hilarious.
Heroin is cheaper than oxy. But yeah, you probably missed my post above this one before you posted that.
I did miss it, lol. My bad, but yeah, my point was that not every problem can be fixed, like you originally stated. I don't plan on killing myself, but fuck if I'm gonna let anybody else kill me. Except my parents...they made me, they can kill me.
Yeah, I agree with these. At the end of the day it's the easier way out. You don't have to deal with it, but I don't really feel like I can talk about this because I could never imagine feeling as bad as you would need to, to actually kill yourself. So i don't think I could judge someone who decided to do it. If someone close to me decided to suicide I would be extremely hurt.
