Suicide while on LSD...

I've heard many stories about acid users doing silly things like roof-top jumping and feeling like they could fly, but who actually does that? I mean when I'm on it I know I cannot do that, I don't think fairy land is going to catch me before I hit the ground! What's your opinion on this subject?

 

I believe it's possible in theory.

From my experiences you are so open to any concept/idea/sound/image that it may shoot your mind down a path and it's very difficult to change the course without another stimuli. This may be my lack of training with any form of meditation (or something simular) though.

I believe if a "stable" person who is not fucked up in the head uses psychedelics there isn't a real chance they'd hop off the edge of building in the attempt to fly.

 

People do incredibly stupid and dangerous things when they are stone, cold sober too. The acid stories are popular, but in reality the number of people who do something like this on acid are very small and most official, reported cases are from people who already had mental issues. And some people are just idiots unfortunately.

You wouldn't drink a bottle of spirits on a dodgy roof top so don't do acid up there either, just use common sense and basic safety logic. Always take it in a safe environment, because your reality and senses will be altered and accidents can happen at any time no matter what you are doing.

But no, you're quite right. You are far more likely to sit and in awe at how far the carpet stretches into the horizon or ponder how beautiful a stain is than to suddenly decide you can defy physics.

 

Ever had a bad trip? It will make you understand why people kill themselves. I still find mushrooms more dangerous though. I have more control and reason with LSD.

 

Comedian Bill Hicks had a whole bit on this subject. Funny as his bit was I think he was right.

 

"What a tragedy."

"Well, what a dick, don't go blaming acid on this guy. If he thought he could fly let him take off from the ground and check it out first."

Bill was my all time favorite.

 

haha lookin through the lsd, Its easy to see them that commited suicide or went completely crazy...Just lookin at the lsd and knowing what it does to your mind it seems that it must have happen more than once ;p

 

Considering the ONLY argument for this revolves around the jumping out of a building story and a bunch of hysterical videos from the 60's, I haven't really seen any evidence that suicide is a major problem with acid or even one to suspect would be bad. I think think it's hype by people trying to find things wrong with LSD.

Also, I advocate only using it in a safe and environment prepared before using the drug, with somebody to watch over you. There is no way the guy would have jumped if he was using it responsibly in that manner, which I think was the point of the Hicks routine... The guy wasn't representative of a responsible adult user.

 

Even if it did happen (and it's far more likely that something like this would happen under the influence of alcohol or other legal drugs) it wouldn't be suicide, it'd be an accident.

 

You know whats funny. I dont like going by railings on high buildings, because I look down and I know if I jump i'll probably die, but it seems too abstract to be true, like I've never seen anyone fall to their death, so how do I know its true? So sometimes i stand there and imagine myself just like vaulting, and landing, and walking away, but I know that wouldn't happen, its just like one of those "why couldn't i?..." sorta deals.
Fucking gravity.
Anyway on LSD I don't even think that, it seems to crazy to think shit like that on LSD

 

IDK. It's sorta mincing words. Tripping has a tendency to bring out the pretty and the ugly alike... full force, no beating around the bush. Absolute Reality. It's had me fed up a few times, why wouldn't it have been suicide had I killed myself?

 

I think maybe if you took a massive dose (as the did in the 60s?) then you might beleive it? but it sounds like it's pretty hard to be that far out you could beleive you can fly.

 

I'm not talking about believing one could fly. I'm talking about not wanting to deal with anything anymore. I'm just saying I could understand the circumstances.

 

i've never did acid. but i've done mushrooms before, and one time i had a bad trip, and i thought i was going insane, and i was like what if i killed myself right now. so i could understand if somebody would commit suicide while on these drugs.

 

In 1953, during the CIA's research in the project MK-ULTRA, they dosed Dr. Frank Olson without his knowledge or consent. He exhibited signs of paranoia and depression. Days later he jumped out of New York Highrise building to his death. He was previously being treated for depression by his doctor. I think this is the first case or maybe where the myth of originated, but he was not on lsd at the time he jumped.

I have not been able to find a single case of someone thinking that they can fly and jumped off a building, I think that it is a myth.

There are some suicides reported while on lsd but seems quite rare and generally happened to people with pre-existing disorders.

 

That could have pushed him over the edge. I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety a couple years ago, but it seems to be effecting me very little.... Strange how things work with acid...

 

I think you pretty much just summed up the whole argument with this. The argument is that you'll have a bad trip and want to die.

I say If you have somebody watching though and you're in a good environment then it'd be way different to try to stab yourself to death.

 

^^ i agree with you. i think that if you are around people that you feel comfortable around.. and in an environment you feel safe in.. then you will be fine.

 

its propagandist bullshit!

 

As important as set and setting are, it's not what really drives people crazy when they trip. It's shit locked way down that is usually supressed while sober. You can't really guarantee anyone will be fine.