Sublime are'nt reggae

why would you talk about Sublime on a reggae thread... they an american alternative rock band who ulse a reggae beat sometimes..big whoop
fair nuff if you like them but in no way do i consider them reggae...i been living in the caribbean for a couple of years and there is music everywhere...all types of reggae...roots, ska, cultural, dancehall, ragga, dub...etc... but not once did i hear Sublime

 

you take your labels seriously, dontcha?

 

not really it's just frustrating to be talking about what is'nt reggae in the reggae forum..repeatedly...

 

Well, american standards for reggae are a little more vague than others most likely. But then again a lot of people consider it "west coast dub", or "west coast reggae." I have heard those two terms quite a few times. As for me i do consider them reggae because of the style of the majority of there songs. But alternative is a good category for some of their other less main stream titles.

 

I don't think you have to be straight out of the carribean to be reggae. They were influenced, and by our modern music standards that appears to be enough. A lot of English bands played the American blues (Eric Clapton, Led Zeppelin), and just because they weren't American they still did a damn good job at it.

 

^^ word.

 

Sublime was as much reggae as they were punk rock

 

West coast reggae, still counts for something, I think they fit best here.

 

My only question would be, why does it matter? If you like it, does it matter is its first wave, third wave, reggae, or surf core?

That said, Early Sublime was really more Ska. The first album was very heavily ska.

 

i wouldn't call it reggae

but I call it so-cal ska/dub

 

I thought they were ska?

 

same here but i like their reggae tone

 

yeah well reggae and ska used to be one of the same. ska is an up beat reggae. reggae came to america from africa and the Caribbean. it was slightly altered and sped up and thats ska. so i would call it ska, but its not totally incorrect to call it reggae. put im going to see badfish tonight, if any one really cares

 

I don't know but it's pretty ironic that you made a thread about it in a reggae forum.

 

Listen yellow lover yet it right on time
We got cricket with the quickness and the bass line

Go and wake the town, tell the people the news,
Ohh, hey, tell them reggae music is on the loose.

Here I am like a ragin storm
With a brand new style and a unique fashon.
I am from the place where the sun keeps shinin, shinin

i thought that this hinted at them being a little reggae.

but what do i know.

 

Go listen to Big Youth, Augustus Pablo, King Tubby, U-Roy etc and then say Sublime are Reggae...

They were a good band but not reggae IMO, they mashed up punk rock, hip hop and ska but very little proper reggae if you ask me... The brand of ska they were playing was more typical of the US sound from when punk bands started crossing over in the 80s- very far removed from typical Jamaican or British ska if you ask me...

 

i can here the reggae. reggae and ska are very similar though. ska is just more up beat and sped up thats all.

 

Ska came first....I think the more apropriate way of saying this, dead head90, is that reggae is a slower version of ska

 

it would be boring if sublime stuck with any one kind of music. kudos to them for being a whole lot of things.

 

i disagree. im quite sure that the native african music was brought to the caribbean. it was then mixed with the current rocksteady and ska to make the familiar sound of reaggae. but i believe that the natvie african music was the most influence on reggae. i guess it all depends on how you look at it.