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your next assignment my friend. i know you love the fact that you are an aries but you are neglecting the rest of your chart my dear egyptian friend....

next post shall be moon signs.................
no more sun signs..................... its a stain on pop culture.....
lol..........and only re-emphasizes the western worlds need of individuality and selfabsorption....

love you and thanks!
what is your moon sign btw? i forgot already....MOON IN TAURUS HERE
one lazy, self complacent bitch

 

sorry, its late, i'll be going to bed now.

 

Interestingly enough there is a system for this in Classical Astrology called the Lunar Mansions. This is also done in Vedic - almost the same thing. It was especialy used in the old days for magic. For instance, if you wanted to do a ritual for money, you would do it while the Moon was in a particular mansion. To my knowledge it wasn't used for natal astrology, BUT I have observed this a bit and it gives you some character to what the Moon is doing. In addition in the ancient system, there were certain images that were appropriate such as a man riding horse carrying a sword. This was also used in magic.

 

I agree, it's time for the moon. Luna has gotten lost in the shuffle. 12 moon signs, 12 houses to place it. Hooray for our pale night mother. I had a feeling this was going to happen. Must be the MOON.

 

oh yes, ive briefly read on the lunar mansions. maybe you could post on that Enili6??!!! hint hint

 

Here is the most well-known source. This is a 17th century translation of Agrippa whom I love dearly. He is a good source for traditional astrology and magic.

And seeing the Moon measureth the whole Zodiack in the space of twenty eight dayes; hence is it, that the wise-men of the Indians and ancientest Astrologians have granted twenty eight Mansions to the Moon, which being fixed in the eight sphere, do enjoy (as Alpharus saith) diverse names and proprieties from the diverse Signs and Stars which are contained in them, through which while the Moon wandreth, it obtaineth other and other powers and vertues; but every one of these Mansions, according to the opinion of Abraham, containth [sic] twelve degrees, and one and fifty minutes, and almost twenty six seconds, whose names and also their beginnings in the Zodiack of the eight sphere, are these.

The first is called Alnath, that is the horns of Aries; his beginning is from the head of Aries of the eighth sphere; it causeth discords, and journies;

the second is called Allothaim or Albochan, that is the belly of Aries, and his beginning is from the twelfth degree of the same sign, fifty one minutes, twenty two seconds compleat; it conduceth to the finding of treasures, and to the retaining of captives;

The third is called Achaomazon or Athoray, that is, showring or Pleiades; his beginning is from the twenty five degrees of Aries compleat fourty two minutes, and fifty one seconds; it is profitable to Saylors [sailors], Huntsmen, and Alchymists;

The fourth Mansion is called Aldebaram or Aldelamen that is the eye or head of Taurus; his beginning is from the eight degree of Taurus, thirty four minutes, and seventeen seconds of the same Taurus being excluded; it causeth the destruction and hindrances of buildings, fountains, wels, of gold-mines, the flight of creeping things, and begetteth discord.

The fift is called Alchatay or Albachay; the beginning of it is after the twenty one degree of Taurus, twenty five minutes, fourty seconds; it helpeth to the return from a journey, to the instruction of scholars, it confirmeth edifices, it giveth health and good will,

the sixth is called Alhanna or Alchaya, that is the little Star of great light; his beginning is after the fourth degree of Gemini, seventeen minutes, and nine seconds; it conduceth to Hunting, and besieging of Towns, and revenge of princes, it destroyeth Harvests and fruits and hindreth the operation of the Physitian [physician].

The seventh is called Aldimiach or Alarzach, that is the Arm of Gemini and beginneth from the seventeenth degree of Gemini, eight minutes and thirty four seconds, and lasteth even to the end of the sign; it conferreth gain and friendship, its profitable to Lovers, it scareth flyes, destroyeth Magisteries. And so is one quarter of the heaven compleated in these seven Mansions; and in the like order and number of degrees, minutes and seconds, the remaining Mansions in evert quarter have their severall beginnings; namely so, that in the first signe of this quarter three Mansions take their beginnings, in the other two signs two Mansions in each;

Therefore the seven following Mansions begin from Cancer, whose names are Alnaza or Anatrachya that is misty or cloudy, viz. the eighth Mansion; it causeth love, friendship, and society of fellow travellers, it driveth away mice ands afflicteth Captives, confirming their imprisonment.

After this is the ninth called Archaam or Arcaph, that is the eye of the Lyon; it hindreth Harvests and travellers, and putteth discord between men.

The tenth is called Algelioche or Albgebh, that is the neck or forehead of Leo; it strengtheneth buildings, yeeldeth love, benevolence and help against enemies;

the eleventh is called Azobra or Ardaf, that is, the hair of the Lyons [lion's] head; it is good for voyages, and gain by merchandize, and for redemption of Captives;

the twelfth is called Alzarpha or Azarpha, that is the tayle of Leo; it giveth prosperity to Harvests, and Plantations, but hindreth Seamen, but it is good for the bettering of servants, Captives and companions.

The thirteenth is named Alhaire, that is Dogstars, or the wings of Virgo; it is pravalent for Benevolence, gain, voyages, Harvests, and freedom of captives;

the fourteenth is called Achureth or Arimet, by others Azimeth or Alhumech or Alcheymech, that is the spike of Virgo, or flying spike; it causeth the love of martyred folk, it cureth the sick, its profitable to Saylors, but it hindreth journies by land; and in these the second quarter of Heaven is compleated.

The other seven follow, the first of which beginneth in the head of Libra, viz. the fifteenth Mansion, and his name is Agrapha or Algarpha, that is, covered, or covered flying; its profitable for the extracting of treasures, for digging of pits, it helpeth forward divorce, discord, and the destruction of houses and enemies, and hindreth travellers.

The sixteenth is called Azubene or Ahubene, that is, the horns of Scorpio, it hindereth journyes and Wedlock, Harvests and Merchandize, it pervaileth for redemption of captives.

The seventeenth is called Alchil, that is the Crown of Scorpio, it bettereth a bad fortune, maketh love durable, strengtheneth buildings, & helpeth Seamen;

The eighteenth is called Alchas or Altob, that is the Heart of Scorpio; it causeth discord, sedition, conspiracy against princes and mighty ones, and revenge from enemies, but it freeth captives and helpeth edifices;

the ninteenth is called Allatha or Achala, by others Hycula or Axala, that is the tayle of Scorpio; it helpeth in the besieging of Cities and taking of Towns, and in the driving of men from their places, and for the dcstruction of Sea-men, and perdition of captives.

The twentieth is called Abnahaya, that is a beam; it helpeth for the taming of wild beasts, for the strengthening of prisons, it destroyeth the wealth of societies, it compelleth a man to come to a certain place.

The one & twentieeth is called Abeda or Albeldach which is a desert; it is good for Harvests, gain buildings and travellers, and causeth divorce; & in this is the third quarter of Heaven is compleated.

There remaineth the seven last Mansions compleating the last quarter of heaven; the first of which being in order to the two and twentyeth, beginneth from the head of Capricorn, called Sadahacha or Zodeboluch, or Zandeldena, that is a pastour; it promoteth the flight of servants and captives, that they may escape, and helpeth the curing of diseases;

the three and twentieth is called Zabadola or Zobrach that is swallowing; it maketh for divorce, liberty of captives and the health of the sick;

the twenty fourth is called Sadabath or Chadezoad, that is the Star of fortune; it is prevalent for the Benevolence of marryed folk, for the victory of souldiers, it hurteth the execution of Government, and hindreth that it may not be exercised;

The twenty fifth is called Sadalabra or Sadalachia, that is a Butterfly or a spreading forth; it helpeth besieging and revenge, it destroyeth enemies, maketh divorse [divorce], confirmeth prisons and buildings, hasteneth messengers, it conduceth to spels [spells] against copulation, and so bindeth every member of man, that it cannot perform his duty;

the twenty sixth is called Alpharg or Phragal Mocaden, that is the first drawing; it maketh for the Union and love of men, for the health of captives, it destroyeth prisons and buildings;

The twenty seventh is called Alcharya or Alhalgalmoad that is the second drawing; it encreaseth Harvests, Revenues, Gain, it healeth infirmities, but hindreth buildings, prolongeth prisons, causeth danger to Seamen, and helpeth to infer mischiefs on whom you shall please;

the twenty eight and last is called Albotham or Alchalcy, that is Pisces: it encreaseth Harvests and Merchandize, it secureth travellers through dangerous places; it maketh for the joy of marryed couples, but it strengthenth prisons, and causeth loss of treasures; and in these twenty eight Mansions do lye hid many secrets of the wisdom of the Ancients, by the which they wrought wonders on all things which are under the circle of the Moon; and they attributed to every Mansion his resemblances, Images, and seals, and his president intelligences, and they did work by the vertue of them after diverse manners.

 

Did you notice they are mostlly beginning with the letter A? I see prisons, and voyages pop up a few times also. There is nothing psychological about it. It was probably used just to predict disasters, good or ill heath, and luck in love and in journeying.

 

Hellllllllllllo Melodi

I was little busy, Today is my Mother's Birthday, she is a nice Sag. too...surprise hahahahaha. She is a lovely person, i love her very much.

right, i tend to concentrate on something and forget about the others, assignment accepted with deep gratitude Just want to figure where to start.

Very happy you are around, you give life to any place you go, but exams are first priority.....will keep --->

My Moon is Virgo, what a pitty, but i always thought i'm emotional ?? :nopity:

You're always lovely.

 

That's a great post Enlil6, but what comes to me first:


How would you jnow your sign then, are they attached to dates too ? and if so, which part then of the 3 i would belong to ? The horns the belly or the
Pleiades?

And how that benfit the pepole (sailors) for example ?

Thanks

 

That was the way astrology was for thousands of years - to predict things, until the 1800s. No there isn't anything psychological, but then again at the end of the day people want to know what's going to happen to them.

If you want to find out what's going to happen to you, then classical astrology is better. If you want to know about psychology, then modern is better. I do classical with a little modern thrown in.

Oh as for the "A" thing, these are corrupted versions of Arabic names, so you all a lot of words beginning with "al".

 

You would have to know exactly where your Moon was and fit it in.

Also these weren't used as much for natal astrology. In the old days natal astrology was a small part of astrology. This was mainly used for electional astrology and magic. I think that it can be used as an element in natal though.

This actually follows the essential dignities. The signs that talk about relaly bad stuff tend to be signs where the Moon isn't dignified.

As far as the sailor's example, and I think it doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to add planes today, it was used for magic, so if you were doing a talisman to aid sailors, you would do it while the Moon was in that sign as well as other astrological phenomena.

 

And how is the moon in sign is calculated, i mean say i'm Moon in virgo according to natal but not really convinvinced aout that. Is there a kind of tables that say for ex. in year 1920 if you were born at 10:am then your moon should be Virgo for example, something like the table of the Ascendent ?

 

I haven't seen a table, but it's pretty easy. If your Moon is 15 degrees Virgo, then you can see which mansion it's in.

 

You know ? if i look into some of those words can see some meanings:

Alnath could = People in Arabic.....at Aries

Alhanna ...= Good welfare / Happiness/joy .....at Gemini

Ardaf ...= Thighs .............at Leo.

Alzarpha ....= The Giraffe.........at leo 12th.

Alhaire ...= If you add K befre the H = Gains, profits, goodwork ...at Virgo.

Allatha ..= could be grieve ..at Scorpio.

Alpharg ..= relief comes after sometime of suffering .. also could mean Vagina

Alcharya..= could be the buyier

Not very sure, but it could mean so.

 

I can't remember the translations, but I remember they're kind of like that

 

According to natal chart it is:

Moon 3 Vir 50

MOON IN 11TH HOUSE

MOON HARD ASPECT MERCURY

MOON SOFT ASPECT MARS

MOON SOFT ASPECT URANUS

Is that it, or i'm talking about something else.

 

Think it can nt be virgo, because i'm emotional and show it.

can not be Libra, because not that diplomatic thing. Although when cool, try to pick words not to hurt people, and yes usually see the two points of view.

Maybe a Scorpio ? because sometime i have that revenge thing.

According to Kepler & Solar Fire programs, i'm Virgo moon... but also not tidy & ordered , maybe at work but not usually at home, - also good under stress.

So i guess it is Libra, because that revenge thing does not last.

"With the Moon in Libra, You have a need for harmony and peaceful surroundings, and you will often seek out peace when under stress. You may have seen your mother as being social and harmonious. She was someone the other kids in the neighborhood liked to be around and they all thought of her as being a "cool Mom." The Moon is the "place" where we go for comfort when scared.... and we tend to unconsciously nurture ourselves in much the same way our mothers nurtured and cared for us when we were very young children. When under stress you may seek to beautify your surroundings or get a "make-over."

Yes Libra is the most suitable, actually one program or site said so.

Thanks

 

would you have rather it been in aries?

and thanks

 

thanks enlil6

 

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