Stupid Dumb Young "Hippies"

You call yourselves hippies, but you don't even know what that means, you think it's all about tye dye and rock music, drugs and partying. If you are serious it's about saving this world for a place for your kids to grow up.

You are about to lose the freedom of the internet, do you care? Most of you don't seem to, but this is one of the most important freedoms you have right now. My generation lost you the the ability to refuse drug searches, we caved, didn't think it was a big priority, but it's lead to insurance companies spying on our health conditions, now they have access to all kinds of data they shouldn't have. We bought into the safety issue. It was for our safety and would reduce our health care costs. Did it...don't think so!

Most of our private data is now sold to marketers. Ever bother to stop and read those agreements you click through. We have no private lives any longer.

Want the large coporations (and I'd say American, but hey they are all off shore now) to control how you surf the net. Well if you don't stand up and be counted, they are going to own you and your internet experience.

Think mom and dad controlled your surfing on the net, or partying activity, let the government get involved, it should be fun. Think they are there just to protect you, how many times has the government wiped your bloody nose?

I hope the title of this thread gets you pissed off. Because very few things seem to call you into action except the promise of a free ipod.

Want to pay for your MySpace site, of uploading you latest stupid film, well that's where you are headed.

 

I agree, too many young "hippies" don't understand the agenda of the government. Just a few days ago I was at my brother's work and I was reading a book called "Wake Up You're Liberal" by Ted Rall and one of his employees saw me reading it and we got into an argument about political parties. The one thing that really stuck though was when he said that he really gave me credit because he doesn't know too many teens that know much about what is really going on in the world. He admitted in his youth he didn't even give a rat's ass. But,, I am 16 and I do enjoy myspace

 

honestly i can say that i was not allowed to have the internet or anything like that until i moved out on my own.....i agree that we need to make the world a better place so that our kids can grow up in a place that is not judgemental and our children don't have to worry about if they are going to be safe from everything....all that you hear about are laptops being stolen and the information of veterans and others in jeopardy....the one thing that i have to say to this is that the parents of todays generation don't give a shit about what their kids do....mine did....and i lied to them all of the time because they did not want me to get hurt.....at the time i did not think that i was hurting myself...and now i look back and realize that they were doing it for a reason....i am 22 and have absolutly nothing to show for my life.....granted i was not able to do a lot of things that kids today can do....but also i was doing things a lot worse because i told my parents that they could trust me that i would not disappoint them....today there are tracking devices on phones for kids....but what good is it going to do if the kid can hack a computer and change the tracking....because it is possible.....there are things today that they say are around to help....but the majority of them are going to end up hurting the kids.....what we need is to have a reality check for the kids...and the young hippies....that what they have today they would not have if it was not for the older generations fighting for us to have the rights that we do....there are so many things that are taken for granted....we need to take a step back and look at where we would be today if they hadn't fought for us....or where our children will be if we don't fight for them.....and i can not say anything about myspace.....i am on there....i like to stay in contact with frinds of mine that are no longer in this area and who are overseas in iraq

 

@Gardener:
That is a great post my friend,
good job.

However,
It would have been way better,
if you would provide information to help the "young hippy" grow into the right direction.
You are right, it is not all about music etc, but what IS it exactly about.

Perhaps you should explain rather then just typing something that basically is a complaint or a agreement to the first post in this thread.

 

They have to become politically aware, even before they are old enough to vote, they need to be aware of the forces that are trying to control their world. And if they object to those controls even if they can't vote, they can lick envelopes they can be runners for groups that will stand up and try to counter the activities of the rich and powerful.

They need to be aware.

 

I honestly could care less for myspace/facebook/livejournal and all those websites. If the government wants to restrict those websites - let them. They are the parasites of the internet.

The likelihood of the government seriously restricting the internet is slim. Too many people WILL complain about it, or the Supreme Court will rule it unconstitutional. I'm honestly not too worried.

Besides, I only use the 'net for this and e-mail. If they take hipforums away, I'll be sad...but trust me - I'd move on.

 

That's exactly the attitude this administration is counting on. And you also have your little college blog, remember that. And I can only guess from the picture you use in your siggy you do have a myspace account. Or you just want us all to know you found a man?

 

1) My blog is done and over with. So I'm not worried.
2) Actually no. Photobucket.
3) *shrugs* The internet is a relatively new feature for the public (within the past 25 years). We have survived thousands of years without it. I think I could survive the rest of my life without it as well. I do all my research through books, which I prefer. So if I am giving the government what they want - oh well.
4) I thought it was a nice picture.

 

we've survived thousands of years with out alot of things such as modern medicine and all that it implies but hey hasn't life been that much better with it. if you think of somehe things we are capable of it would be a real pity to lose the internet.

on that note
this is to gardener how are we supposed to use the internet w/out giving up our privacy i think it has to be a trade off.

 

Giving up privacy on the net should be a personal issue, not a legislated one. If you choose to give out private information, that's your choice, but if you allow corporations to track your every move and sell your data for profit or other nefarious purposes, because our politicians made it possible for these corporations, you are giving up rights.

 

Well, I do agree with you, but I do have to stand up for myself. I consider myself hippie simply because of my beliefs and lifestyle. I seldom wear tie dye and I don't do drugs. I consider myself hippie because I believe in valuing all life. I believe in animal rights. I believe that the government should not rule my life and make my decisions. I have a lot of other reasons. To me, being a hippie is not some group I chose to affiliate myself with. It just seems like the morally right thing for me.

 

If I can sumerize your position, you don't use the internet much so government control of it doesn't affect you enough to motivate action. It sounds like you will let the government control the internet until either they get too intrusive or you change your intenet usage.

By the way, regarding #3) We have survived thousand of years without safe abortions. Does that mean you support government controling access to safe abortions? Or vaccines. Or autos. What aspect of modern life (without which we suvived thousands of years) would you object to the goverment controlling? (How long have we had public libraries?)

 

right on mikE

 

I do agree on the fact that too many young "hippies" don't get the actual 'idea' behind being a "hippy". They just like smoking pot, wearing certain clothes and whatnot.
To me, though, it's trying to change this world into a good, peaceful place..
I really hope some of "us" will understand sometime.

Though, I wouldn't go as far as calling them stupid or dumb, they just don't know any better!

 

You can thank dumb stupid people who the goverment feels the needs to protect. Common sense is not longer the best defense anymore you must step up lables to say instead of "HOT" to "Extremely HOT" on your "Hot Coffee" you order, warn people not to point guns at themselves ect. We have become a society of not accepting fualt for our own poor choices or mistakes and instead sue other for it.

Take the woman who left her young children (under 8) alone in her home along with a couple of thier freinds also as young. She went a few houses up the street to visit another woman, she left these kids alone, they ended up getting into the parents room dug thru the room, found a pistol and one ended up shot and killed. Now instead of stepping up for being a stupid worthless parent, no they sued the store they bought the gun from, the supplier who sold it to the store and the maker of the gun and won. They also started this whole gun lock mandate ect. I guess education, prevention and actually not being stupid leaving children home alone at a far to young age was not a factor at all.

No body wants to accept thier own blame. People want something different but they dont offer a choice and live by it themselves. Its easy to point fingers and blame and complain but without offering choices for the change what good is it?

 

i think there still are enough people around who do value common sense. the problem is that the laws are interpretated in a way that people like the owners of that gun can sue the store they bought it from. it's the laws, lawyers and small amount of stupid people who make it possible these kind of things can happen. unfortunately those cases have pretty much a big influence on the lifes of everyone else

 

I doubt that the case that those parents brought will ever go to trial infact it should have been thrown out, and probably was by the court system, you can't charge others with neglect of duty if you have neglected your own responsibilities. The NRA can list every case that has ever been filed, but a majority of those without credibility are throw out without ever being dealt with by the court system.

Do you have a link?

 

As a note the lady with the mcdonalds coffee that spilled on her lap and sued, that coffee was actully way to hot and normal coffee does not cause third degree burns.

 

I agree, everyone loves to bring up this lawsuit, but if they were heating coffee that would cause 3d burns, it was way too hot to drink, and in my opinion this was not a frivolous lawsuit, but some would like you to think so.

When are corporations going to accept responsibility for the flaws in their products? without making consumers sue them in order to get any recompense, and in most cases they have to promise to no longer speak about the said case if they accept a settlement. Which means others in the future can be damaged in the same way if evidence of faulty products or misrepresentation are kept secret.

I am tired of seeing the rights of the little individual to take legal action eroded, because huge corporations want protection.

Ever wonder why they want to limit the little man's right to sue, it's to protect big corporate interests, not save court costs. The loser has to pay those. They say it'll save you money, yeah like bicycle helmets for kids in California, and all the cigarette taxes...anyone seen their insurance or health care costs go down?

I'd love to know who in the California legislature that voted for the bike helmet law owned stock in helmet companies. Ever tried to make sure an eight year old riding two blocks to a friends put on their helmet first? I am over fifty...my three brothers and I and all our friends, the only injuries I remember happening were getting our pants caught in the chain, and my little brother broke his big toe. A helmet wouldn't have really prevented that. Oh and I broke my jaw when I crashed on the bumper of a parked car, but a helmet wouldn't have prevented that, and my mom set it. I never saw a doctor.

 

Girl, I totally agree with you!

While I do use the Internet, I could also survive without it. I, too, do the vast majority of my research with books.

As for blogs, I could never do that...although I did sign up for MySpace as a way to meet fellow activists...give a good old fashioned paper diary anyday!