Strange and horrifying...before I fall asleep. Happens A LOT

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  1. Geneity

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    I sleep in the basement of my mom's house. It's finished and basically where I hang out when I'm here (I live here). All my stuff is down here and blah blah. So anyway there are 2 blankets on the floor that I sleep on, pillows and such and a blanket to cover me. Not the point of the story but it's a little idea of where this shit happens to me, and the place it happens about 98% of the time (I've had it happens 1 or 2 times in my actual bedroom upstairs).

    Anyway....

    Many times, when I'm tired and lay down to sleep, before I drift off into unconsciousness I go into this really intense state of....tripping I guess would be a good way to describe it. Completely paralyzed and fully conscious. Cannot move a single thing, even my eyelids. Sometimes it's even quite hard to breathe. My muscles randomly tense up all over the place, sometimes to the point that I get worried something might happen to them, but it's never painful.

    I feel massive forces pushing and pulling, like I could be thrown into a wall with great speed, and sometimes I even see the couch getting closer as if I'm actually moving. I won't see things that aren't there, but will see things that are in a completely different way (sometimes things get blurry, or ripply, I see shadows and things and might think that they're people, knowing in the back of mind that they're shadows).

    I also hallucinate auditorally. Hearing voices of people I know and laughing and rushing sounds and all sorts of scary shit. I feel highly vulnerable when this is happening and get very scared, and there's never anything I can do to stop it, but just wait until it's over. Usually these episodes last 15-20 seconds before I can 'push through' to reality again. Like ripping open plastic. It doesn't just 'snap' back.

    Also, on one occasion I was going through this and thought of someones fingers running down my leg (to test if I could hallucinate physically on command in this state). Sure enough as soon as I began thinking of that I felt a huge tingling sensation run down my legs and it spread throughout my body and just scared me even more.

    Strange thing is that when I do get back to reality I don't feel scared or worried or anything other then normal, and simply try to go back to sleep. Usually in less then 20 seconds this starts again, happening 4-6 times before I actually fall asleep.

    Is this a condition or something? It's scary as hell but honestly I don't want to get rid of it forever. I've also been able to see through my eyelids in this state, and in times where I'm half-conscious and this isn't happening. I have a lot of other strange things I can and can't voluntarily do while drifting into sleep, and while sleeping (lucid dreaming and whatnot), but that's not the focus of this post.

    Help!
     
  2. Wormed

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    That sounds like an early stage of astral projection or something! Unfortunately, I have no real advice or information... but that's damn awesome. Teach me your ways.
     
  3. overactive imaginati

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    it sounds like sleep paralysis, it happens to me sometimes, and once in a while i wake up in the middle of the night and it starts happening. it feels like i am paralyzed, or even like someone is pushing me, and i won't see any real hallucinations, but my perception is distorted. when you are in REM sleep your body is naturally paralyzed, so in sleep paralysis your body is still paralyzed, but your mind is conscious, and hypnagogic hallucinations occur, meaning your sensory input is more vivid and lucid then normal.

    i'm not sure if its a disorder, but i know that my sleeping pattern isnt great(staying up late on weekends, losing sleep and having frequent naps during the week) and maybe i dont get enough REM sleep.
     
  4. Geneity

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    Hypnagogia. That explains it pretty much exactly. Thank you!
     
  5. Ms.Oh!

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    it is hypnogogia.

    i have experienced much the same thing due to my neurological disorder.

    once you realize what it is and that it cant hurt you it becomes a lot less scary.
     
  6. Ms.Oh!

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    oh yes -
    it is usually light that triggers these hallucinations.

    i find that when i go to sleep in complete darkness it is far less likely that this will happen.
     
  7. Geneity

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    You're absolutely right. When I fall asleep with the TV on these are almost always triggered. Then, when I turn it off, I go right to sleep without this happening. Any sort of noticeable light seems to make it happen for me.
     
  8. Donski

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    I remember watching something about Rod Serling and he described the same thing, an area where you're in a dream state but you're not fully asleep nor fully awake. He based his famous TV show on these types of dreams, he called it the Twilight Zone. Don't feel alone, this happens to far more people than you may think.

    When I was young I used to get that same feeling of paralysis and tingling. When I was in that state it would feel like my hands, feet, lips and tongue were ten times as large as they are. Then one time I was looking at a book where they said that different parts of the body have different numbers of receptors per square inch of skin. Areas like the hands, feet, lips and tongue have far more feeling than others. They drew a picture of a man with a huge head, hands and feet and it looked just as I imagined myself when I was in that state. It's strange how the mind can play tricks on you when you're not fully awake.
     
  9. Mitok

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    I usually feel the presence, and have the distorted perception, but the fear to me seems unusally high. I'll have to screw around with it a bit, eh. I also have very common Hypnic Jerks that always precede these little trips. It is pretty scary, but two or three times it was somethat euphoric.
     
  10. Lustandlove

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    I have heard of this linked with skeptics of alien abduction.
     
  11. Donski

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    Yeah, I just seen a show about that on TV yesterday while flipping through the channels. It really amazes me just how gullible some people are to think they've been abducted by aliens just because they've dreamed about it. They hooked up brain wave monitors to the subjects and found that when they're in that state the brain waves are the same as when they're awake, but it's normal to experience sleep paralysis so you don't walk in your sleep and hurt yourself. When hypnotized you can't tell the difference between memories of dreams and reality, so people have been conned into thinking their nightmares actually happened.
     
  12. Lustandlove

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    Right on. Maybe. :^) You might getting one perspective of it. I have had any a number of weird experiences, a few of them involving seeing what would seem to be UFOs. I've actually seen 4 UFOs over the years, and I am not one of those obsessive types about it. 2 of them ended up having "rational" (Non-E.T.) explanations, and 2 did not.

    It makes more sense to me that life and intelligence are the natural tendency of the cosmos (And us a natural result.) rather than a weird anomoly.
     
  13. Donski

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    One night I was with three of my friends smoking a joint in the backyard when something silently flew overhead. It appeared round and full of lights and traveling fairly fast just above the few clouds that were in the sky that night. My friends were all convinced it was a UFO. I believe it was a squadron of four jet fighters flying in tight formation, each having a light on each of its wings along with lights on their nose and tail. This made up a total of 16 lights arranged to look like a complete disc.

    My point here is that even when the majority of witnesses believe one thing, it doesn't mean it's the only explanation. Even though I believe we're not alone in the universe and life exists on other planets, I just don't believe they're visiting Earth. It's like sightings of Bigfoot, until we have and an actual body that scientists can examine then none of the so called evidence counts. I've seen pictures of evidence that people have claimed were pieces from a flying saucer, and I was able to identify them because I've worked with items like it. It's easy to fool people that have no idea how common man made items are constructed.

    It can all be explained by those that know the truth, and there will always be those that prefer to live the dream.
     
  14. Lustandlove

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    Hey. You may be right on the lights you saw. Then again perhaps reefer madness has influenced you to believe it was something normal! (Jest!) I believe in science but I also believe that there are subjective biases against what are percieved as uncoventional occurrances. Like shit happens but nothing will convince some people of it.

    In the high plains New Mexico town of Edgewood, I was walking out in the middle of nowhere when I saw what looked exactly like a smaller version of a Klingon battlecruiser flying low under the clouds. The trouble was that it sounded like a
    mini-bike! They do test experimental aircraft in the area and I feel certain that that's what it was.

    On the other hand while walking home from middle school in Los Alamos, California one afternoon, I saw a triangular formation of metallic egg-like objects fly low overhead. They were silent. As I looked to no avail for anyone else to see the things, and then wished that I had a camera, they zipped across the far horizon in seconds, disappearing in the direction of the mountains to the south and east. I would later see in a television documentary that this is a type of UFO seen and photographed before. You will probably say that they were geese but what I saw was not geese. More like a cluster of airborne metallic goose eggs, perhaps!

    When it comes to something like Roswell, I see a clash between believable testimony; the official government stance changing back and forth a bit, and what seems to be cover-ups, allowing people to choose which side they believe. People not merely skeptical, but biased against the possibility of the uncoventional, will be able to find what they want to find in it all.
     
  15. Donski

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    I don't believe in magic, and so-called magicians are just illusionists. There are many illusions that can look to the naked eye to be very convincing, but they are still illusions. Because of this, I can't help but be a skeptic. Just because you can't prove that man made something you saw doesn't automatically prove that it came from outer space. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

    Now I believe there is a cover up. They're not using a story to cover up UFOs, they're using the UFO story to cover up their secret projects. As long as people believe in UFOs then the cover up is working. And as long as people believe in UFOs, ghosts and other things like it then people can sell books and produce TV shows and movies.

    You know they're not going to tell you the truth, that would be counterproductive.
     
  16. Lustandlove

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    Making me laugh now! I can't argue with cynicism regarding the government. No doubt. There might be all kinds of weird interdimensional craft that are made by Uncle Sam. I do believe in ghosts, whatever they may actually be. Have had too many weird experiences and weird shared experiences.
     
  17. Ms.Oh!

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    it is.

    around the world people who have supposedly experienced some sort of alien abduction all described the same thing - being paralyzed, hearing unintelligible voiced, seeing bright lights - and since these peoples stories were more or less the same, that is what made them seem somewhat credible.

    however, anyone thats experienced hypnogogia sleep paralysis knows that these are common symptoms. its true that if you dont know what you are experiencing it can be very scary and disorienting. but its not aliens!
     
  18. Donski

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    At least I got a laugh out of you. lol :D That's normally what I'm trying for. ;)

    But seriously, I've had a few weird experience myself. Back in January 1986 I was telling a guy at work that I have premonitions. He said "next time you have one let me know". So the next day when I went into work I told him that the Space Shuttle Challenger is going to blow up. He didn't believe me. A few weeks later when it actually did I freaked, and so did that guy I told. I wish I could explain how I knew, but I can't.
     
  19. Lustandlove

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    Hey. I believe that that happens. For me that doesn't necessarily mean that nothing else happens too, though.

    I am reminded of one of my weirder experiences. I was laying in bed asleep when white light seemed to shine on my eyelids, waking me up in the wee hours. I awoke and looked about and saw white light shining through the bedroom window. I figured that cops were shining their mounted lights from a police cruiser, maybe looking for someone. I got out of bed and went into the livingroom and the front of the house and looked out the front window. (Don't recall but I think I saw more lights past the blinds.) Outside I saw some low clouds with colored lights pulsing inside of them, as weird as that sounds. The cloud was low and right in front of the house. As I watched it was kind of roiling and moved away into the rest of the clouds and disappeared. I know that sounds whacked but I did see it.
     
  20. Shatarag

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    I believe in UFOs.But I dont believe in alien abductions..
    I mean of course it would be crazy to think that out of all the other universes we
    are the only intelligent life out there..
    Do I think there coming here thow..lol...No

    we for get what a ufo is ..Unidentified flying object...
    For that matter we could get in a small plane cover it in foil to refract the light of the sun and all we would see is a bouncing ball of light once you get high enough..
    lol..
    Im just saying theres know telling what it is..
    I do feel that alot of these sinsations we have reported feeling are nothing more than natural effects of your body..
    People comonlly ignore..
    Our own way of trying to be interesting..
    Thats just my opinion thow..
     

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