Well, about a week ago arrived some 2c-e, and being my first time with this substance, i was eager to try it. So the next next i did a liquid measurement to 10mg/1ml and dosed 15mg with a accurate syringe into orange juice. I had taken .5 of ginger 30 minutes prior. Started watching scanner darkly, and by the end of the movie was feeling quite nice, but only a light euphoria, reminiscent of mdma but with a strange edge, a few warps in vision when listening to Bassnectar. So i dosed another 7mg and continued watching stand-up comedy the rest of the night, laughing a lot and being analytical, it was nice, i enjoyed it. Around 5 am I attempted to go to sleep [i dosed around 11], which, as you all probably know, was impossible. My insides started feelign strange, like things were not in the right place [ though i was aware, that couldn't happen], it just felt..well... weird. Speed up two days later, i dosed 10mg 2c-e and 15mg 2c-i the enxt night, with a small bump of 4-aco-dmt around the end of the trip. Well now i have this strange pain in my spleen, i looked it up, and am positive it is, right under my left lung. Its been bothering me sense yesterday evening, and it kinda is scaring me a bit, considering i didnt have anything hit that area, or and other things happen, and ive never ex pierced this before. Now tonight, in right my side of my chest, right below my collar bone, there is a dull pain aswell. These pain on happen when i move a certain direction, I'm really worried guys, i'm not sure if i should go to the hospital; if i do should i tell them what i took? I really don't want to die from some crazy shit like this. or have some long term disease from this, so not worth it, espcailly after my 2nd time use. What should i do?
I have pains like this all the time, always ends up being IBS, Acid reflux, heart burn ect. If theres anything I've learned from going to the doctor many times for benign shit is not to worry too much unless like, your having seizures or your heart stopped If you are REALLY WORRIED call a doctor, but don't worry to much...I 99.99999999999997769% guarentee it has nothing to do with the 2c-e
It could just be some pains resulting from muscle tension during the trips. Then again, like draco said, it could be something completely unrelated to the 2ce. I've never experienced anything like that, even after taking three 50mg 2ce trips within one week. I wouldn't worry about it.
Maybe that's what I feel too. Muscle tension. If we sort of express our minds through our body I could totally see this the case.
i feel what you're saying about feeling like things are not in the right place when trying to go to sleep, but the spleen thing...i dunno. if it's really bothering you...go to the doctor. you wouldn't even have to tell them you took anything, unless they ask and then you could tell them and it's confidential. tripping again two days after tripping is probably rough on the body. space them out
i was sorry to read about your discomfort, but i suspect that there is no need for medical intervention. Usually this kind of stuff is symbolic, gas related (gas generated by the chemicals), or intestinal cramping (this pain can be surprisingly "referred" to other body parts). See a doctor if you feel compelled, but i would seriously recommend you initially mention your symptoms as potentially anxiety related. Unless you see the source of the RC's as very questionable, it's probably not material related. Psychedelics are very safe. Ask if they can rule out physical causes. Tell them this will allow you to move forward and figure out what is going on. If they ask you if you took anything it is best to tell the absolute truth. Sucks i know - most of them have never even heard of the RC's we like. But, they can quickly look info up and it is important that they have accurate data if, for example, you have some sort of extreme physical measurement (e.g. blood pressure) that is off in someway. Obviously, regardless of what you decide, it seems apparent that it might be time for at least a short integration break. Nothing wrong with taking a week or month off. i do it all the time. It will be there for you. Please keep us updated. Hoping you get some relief, both mental and physical, very soon. Peace & Love, Brrrrp!
its better to be safe than sorry... but there's no need to tell them you took anything at all. if there's something wrong they'd notice it anyways. one night I was about to dose on 4 ho MIPT but plans changed so I didn't end up dosing, but that night coincedentally I got one of the worse headaches I've ever had in my life. If I did end up dosing that night I would have automatically attributed it to that.
Hey guys, thanks for all the quick responses and advice. Its been about 4 days and the spleen pain has finally gone away, there is still sum upper-chest soreness & i have been incredibly drained the past few days, i normally only sleep about 6 hours a night, but I've been sleeping about 14-16 hours a day the past few days. I'm really thinking it could be the 2c-i. I've assumed in the past a have hypothyroidism [i'm pretty underweight, moderate depress/anxiety, insomnia, and quite a few other problems accosited with it, aswell as family members that have been diagnosed], but never been officially diagnosed myself, and iodine hasn't been used in any medication except for thyroid meds. The thyroid controls many hormonal functions, and could explain my strange tiredness. Which kinda sucks, because i haven't even past a threshold dose of 2c-i by itself, and have a gram left. I think i'll be taking a break from RC's. They kinda scare me, and the side effects just seem...wrong. Thanks again guys, you all are a big help. Love the Synthetics section, one big tripped out family.
Oddly enough I've had a somewhat sharp pain in the same area after dosing the MDPV I had a while ago. It would stick around for 30 min after dosing then fade away. Odd...
Hey, I just stumbled across this. I had a really bad attack of body-related anxiety & hypochondria after taking 2C-E, which was ALL in my head, so I want to emphasize that it may not be anything physical, but it might be psychological. By focusing on negative bodily sensations, they can quickly spiral downwards into "anxiety loops", where the more you think about it, the worse it seems, & then the more you focus on it, & then so on. Just saying that was my experience with seeming physical symptoms related to 2C-E, & the "problems" stopped once I relaxed & focused my mind on other things. However, that was me, & obviously you, not being me, may actually have some physical symptoms from taking 2C-E & 2c-I & 4-aco-dmt, especially so quickly together. But maybe my experience with 2c-e can help out a fellow tripper, if anything is related.
