I'm as straight as they come, or so I thought.. I was Mr. Football in highschool and a wrestler, dated the prom queen/homecoming queen and the whole nine yards.. After loosing a scholarship for football, I entered the Navy and went off and did some highspeed, adventurous stuff.. While in Thailand, I hooked up with what I thought was a chick and was a bit surprised when I found she was a he or at least used to be.. Anyways, now I wonder what it would have been like and have fanticized about it often when I masturbate or I am with a girl.. I don't think of it as gay, because what I am looking at is feminine and looks nothing like a man to me.. In fact, I can assure you that my own sex repulses me.. No way I could think of a dude as hot.. So is there any way to meet transexuals discreetly or is that something that is a kick in the face for them?? I really want to hook up and feed the urge I have!!
some transgendered people are just crossdresser. While other may be true transsexuals.. / But even the crossdressers and transsexuals argue over what and who they are to no end... Just visit a true crossdressing forum and read all the bitch fights.. Anyways.. crossdressers, transsexuals are human beings too. they have sex like everyone else.. If your seeking a relationship or fling with a True pre-op-transsexual. AKA Shemale, One may be difficult to find outside the escort avenue.. eros.com for better service than craigs list for escorts.< This is true for both client and service. less bullshit.
No, not quite everyone else... lol To the OP, you are absolutely right to say it's not gay when they don't look like a man, and you are attracted by their feminine appearance. Gay men are not attracted to MTF transsexuals, so despite the ignorant observation that it is "gay", it actually is not at all. A lot of straight men have been unwittingly attracted to transwomen (or women with an intersex condition) without realising it, so it definitely is not gay. It's more the perception that it's "gay" that illicits sometimes an angry and unpleasant response from some straight guys upon realising they were attracted to a transsexual woman. It is not "gay" but unfortunately that is the general perception of it, and that will not change anytime soon. If you're attracted only to the female physical form, then it can never be "gay" to be attracted to that. No matter the past of the person with the female physical form.
Maybe a transfriendly night club, gay bars.. But not all Gay bars are transsexual friendly.. I would say those seeking shemales will have to put more work into hunting them down in other personal ad's and dating service.. unless you've had experience with both gay crossdressing men and true shemale. It may be difficult to tell the difference. Being a transgendered person myself. It will not be easy seeking persons of my kind. Im a picky eater..
I played footy in high school (Rugby League) was amongst some of the gayest things I've ever done, it was 2-3 hours of touching guys, at 15 I'd come home on a Tues afternoon (our sports day) and have to jerk off ten times before I could get to sleep. And I can think of at least 5 of my fellow teamates over those 3 years that ended up with my dick in their mouth. As for the navy? Seriously?, yeah cos the navy is the last place to find a gay guy The mind boggles, this denial thing is bizarre, even when its literally right in front of their face they pretend it doesnt exist To the OP: dude, tell pretty much any chic that you were a wrestler in high school and they will immediately jump to images of muscly guys writhing on the ground together and automatically assume you are at least bi-curious As for trans, they are roughly 1 in 4000, like everyone else they dont all look the same, so lets say only half of them you will find hot. So 1 in 8000. Lets also say a mere 10% of the male population think like you. So 800 in 8000. Thus for every 1 hot trans, you are competing with 800 guys. 1 hot trans for every 4000 guys if its 50% which is more the reality. Reality is far easier for you to get a 18-25 yr old girlfriend, 5% of the population ( you just need money and a nice car for that ) , than either a hot gay guy 0.5% of the population ( who are going to care more about whether you are hot than how much money you have) or a hot MtF trans at 0.01% of the population, and have way too much competition, which is probably the real reason most of them work in the sex industry and earn more than 18 yr old girls do
I'm not sweating the statistics of transexual or transgendered evolution or mating rituals.. I do well with girls.. Very well in fact.. And I'm not conceded, it's just a fact.. Even as assholish as that sounds.. But that's just the issue.. I'm bored with the norm, so to speak.. And regardless of your history, I have never had any interest in guys PERIOD!! To me, that's gross!! But I won't judge if you won't.. So please stop with the suggestion I am in denial.. Cause that is certainly not it.. And if I don't run across a blistering hot Tranny, then so be it.. It's not that big of a deal.. Just wanted to scratch an itch..
But it is still a transgender/transexual anyway you put it , I'm not saying he's gay but he did have a gay experience.
"it" is a transgender/transsexual? I suppose whether you find it "gay" or not all depends on whether you view transwomen as being "men" or not. I personally do not see genuine female transsexuals as being "men", so therefore I do not think it is "gay" for a man to be attracted to them. Transgenders and "trannssexuals" who are happy with their male anatomy though, are a different kettle of fish altogether though. I would see it as being gay/bi to be attracted to them. The bottom line is, if a man is only attracted to the female attributes of a person, then it's not possible for that to be in any way "gay". Here's an example: If I met a guy and found him attractive, but later found out he was actually a ftm transsexual, would that make me a lesbian? No, it would not, because I was attracted to him purely as a man, and saw him as a man. The fact the guy actually turned out to be trans would have no bearing on my sexuality.
If genitalia was the sole thing that defined a person's sex, then people with certain intersex conditons (including me) would have no sex at all, seeing as they were born with atypical genitalia. And intersex has always existed. Just because it's something that's been covered up in typical western societies for many years, doesn't mean it's a new thing, because it's not. Scientifically speaking, what goes into making up a person's gender is far more complex than most people are taught is the case from a young age. But just because most of society is unaware of those truths, does not stop them from being facts nonetheless.
if you slept with a person who considers themselves female, you did not have a gay experience. it was straight sex! however, you did sleep with someone who is not your average female, and that can be very erotic and exciting. i say go for it! explore more! look for a gay village or gay bar and you will find trans women there. dont be shy! im sure they would love to have a man like you around, even if its just for one night! just be respectful!!!! transamericana80 is a new memeber. she posted in the introductions section. perhaps she can answer some of your question regarding how to approach the situation without being offensive to the girls your trying to go out with.
In my opinion I still think he had a gay experience , that's what I personally think, which alot of straight men do which is not a problem. http://www.drlove.com/content/having-sex-transsexual-considered-gay-sex
It was not a gay experience, at least in my opinion. If he saw the person who he had the experience with as a woman, and was attracted to her as a woman, then it was not a gay experience. That article proves absolutely nothing, as the guy complaining saw the transsexual as "a man", not all people view transwomen as "men". Although I personally would class a person labelled (or I would say mislabelled) "transsexual" as a man, if they are quite happy to have sex with their male bits, and don't mind having them. God forbid, if someone was attracted to me, they couldn't be gay or straight, seeing as in a lot of people's eyes, people like me are neither one gender or the other... which I guess just puts me in the category of "an interesting experience"...
Could you expand on your condition, please? I am truly intrigued. OK, I've got to say that I really don't think it's gay. Then again, I've been attracted to the lovely feminine features of people and found out they had a penis. You know what? The attraction didn't go away. In my mind they were females. Just with a penis. And it's hot in the way it is so different, to find a thing of beauty that you can do very similar things to a true female and a few more. I'm certainly not attracted to men, I consider myself straight. It's like Orison said, genitalia is the old way of telling someone's sex. The new way is telling by their minds and the body image they present. I mean, there are some guys that I have known who blatantly have vaginas, or at least would do better with one, some women whom a penis would really suit, though they probably wouldn't have one because they hate men so much (waaah waaah) that they like to imitate them and pick up their worst attributes. In my experience, the best place to meet transgender freaks (kidding) of any type is the gay bars. Just treat them like you would a woman, because that's what they are at that particular moment in their minds no matter what anyone thinks. So slap them and chain them to the kitchen sink.