stop using planes your destroying the world

do you ever consider the amount of damage you are doing to the enviroment by your method of transport , couldnt you walk or travel by sailboat, or travel less.

 

http://www.greentraveller.co.uk/

http://www.idontfly.com/


short film on global warming you are part of the cause , be the change you wish to see localise downsize powerdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJTDSEPSfhk

film on resource depletion
http://anthropik.com/ykp

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/

lots of links to peak oils things two films that explain the concept at the bottom of the page

 

So much is shipped to our stores from thousands of miles away. I prefer local goods, or at least close european country's goods, so much fuel is used and therefore pollution produced for our comfort.
Fruit, wines... and all our fuel is shipped here! It's crazy if you think about it.

 

Except for maybe some trains, air travel is said to be the most fuel efficient means of transport - hundreds of miles per gallon per seat/ton.

 

Travelling overland to India or SE asia isn't really an option for me, so no, unless there is peace in the middle east...

 

why are you going to india or southeast asia ? is your journey really Necessary

and it is possible to sail to india or southeast asia my late father did it a few times its takes a while and is more of a adventure than getting on a plane but its possible to do .

and as for safety of travelling to india you should consider the damage you and all the other people flying here and there are doing to the planet , also airplanes do crash and do get attacked by terrorists

leopold sea travel can beat trains and planes , as can bikes as can walking , downsize ,powerdown .

 

People should just walk everywhere and not consume any natural resources: naked and on foot, like this guy:

 

If 9 percent of co2 emissions come from aviation and the large amounts of co2 emissions are damaging the enviroment .

I think people should ask themselves whether it would be better to travel less or travel by ways less likely to damage the enviroment .

I was speaking to a friend recently who was off to the maldives he said one of the reasons he picked the maldives is because they were likely to sink because of global warming, and he wanted to see them before they went, but he doesnt seem to see that his journey is part of the cause of the maldives being destroyed, hes putting thousands of tons of co2 into the atmosphere by his 11 hour plane flight .

He also drives a massive hummer type car and lives a very high energy use lifestyle,
wouldnt he be better not going and downsizing his own consumption , or if he really wanted to go to go via sailship , it would cost him more money, take him more time but damage the planet less

 

They paved paradise and put up a parkin' lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got till it's gone
They paved paradise and put up a parkin' lot

yes your seeing the world but your modes of travel are destroying the things you wish to see

 

Because I want to. I want to teach english in the region for a few years...

I admire your passion for the environment, really I do, it's wonderful, but I have to say you'll get nowhere preaching to people like this. You're being incredibly misguided in your approach.

I don't really appreciate you painting me out to be the bad guy simply because I use a plane a couple of times every year...You don't know me, so please don't be so judgemental you are coming across as very self-righteous (for a start I have actually worked as a fundraiser for 'friends of the earth' in the past and still do occasionally volunteer fundraising for greenpeace, don't believe me then e-mail me, i'll give you phone numbers or adresses where you can check this, so my conscience is crystal clear)...Please try to look at the bigger picture, things are not in black and white, sometimes we have to compromise our ideals in the present to make progress in the future.

Thank you.

With respect

 

you are being a complete dickwad about this

you cna't just preach to people like that and expect them to listen
and don't you think you are asking a lil much more than many can provide
do you realize how much longer sailing would take?
not everyone has that kinda time availible, pal

 

I think planes are the work of the devil.... So are cars... I hate cars. We are doomed unless there is someone in the extremities urging caution. There are already too many who don't give a flying fsck.

 

whether people want to listen is up to them ,Im not in politics so I dont have to be popular or get elected and I can give my opinion without worrying whether its going to be a popular opinion .

There are things you can do to make up for your co2 emissions there are companys that plant a certain number of trees for whatever airmiles you do , that may be a option for some people .

And Im not trying to get at peaple as although I dont fly or have a car anymore I used to have three cars and I still use a computer.

Im just suggesting that people consider their personally damage to the enviroment , and to try other modes of travel or travel less

and yes I know how long sailing would take Im the son of a man who sailed to just about every country on earth with a shoreline

 

Well then, this is the problem then isn't it?

If you are not worried if people will listen or not then it's highly unlikely you'll actually make any positive changes with this approach because people wont listen to you! More significantly, if you don't care then why are you bothering to post this? Maybe it's time to reflect on your motives.
People react negatively to this kind of coercion; This is evident by the fact youve already pissed off people with your approach here. This isn't a good way of spreading awareness about green issues, infact i'd say you're probably hampering them, it's counter-productive. People don't listen to preaching, they immediently switch off, trust me i've done street fundraising and door to door fundraising. Being evasive really pisses people off and rightfully so.

Please reconsider your method of approach. Go and hand out leaflets or write letters to your MP or something. Write essays and post them online. But don't preach to be people about what they can and cannot do.

 

For the sake of a quick comparison, Queen Elizabeth 2 burns 18 tons of fuel per hour and can cross the Atlantic in four days carrying 2000 people. That's 1728 tons of diesel, meaning 0.864 tons were burned per person on a transatlantic crossing.

A 747-400 burns 10 tons of fuel per hour and can cross the Atlantic in about 8 hours, carrying, say 500 people (not maximum capacity, but we'll use that anyway). That's 80 tons of fuel, meaning about 0.16 tons per person on a transatlantic crossing.

 

@Leopold: erm... sails? 0 tons!

 

0 reliability.


Not practical for moving sizable numbers of passengers or amounts of cargo, and in a reasonable amount of time.

 

If you do a fast crossing of the atlantic you lose a lot of the advantages that sea travel has over air in fuel economy.
The QE 2 firstly carrys few passengers because its a luxury liner and goes too fast , and passenger carrying sail ships crossed the atlantic for a hell of a long time and could do so again , this time with better construction maybe a engine for emergency use radio ect ect.

 

If you cram passengers in like sardines and crawl along at 5 knots you might begin to approach the efficiency of air travel. Good luck finding enough people willing to be crammed together as such. Face it, ships can't compete. Airliners killed the transatlantic ferry.

 

Now apart from the damage to the enviroment how long do you think jet travel is going to last considering we are at or soon approaching peak of oil production.

And every year from then we will have less oil and still have a increasing demand and at about halfway down the curve of production it will take more energy than you get out to produce oil and from then on it will be impossible to use it as a fuel.

Now oil is a thing that people didnt have to make it took many millions of years , there are fuels you can make but generally they either take more fuel than you get out of them ,or they take up land that we need to grow food .

The average car running on biofuels for a year takes the land that could support 26 people in food for a year , imagine what a jet would take would you be happy seeing lots of people starving to death so you could fly in your jet .

And even if you could I dont think the system we have now could function on non oil sources so the only option we have is powerdown our consumption .

sailing ships are the way of the future if we are lucky