stay away (read this)

if your anything like i was, your going to look at this and be like

"psh he dosnt know me, thats bs"

but if you really stop to think about it, you may notice it does apply to you.

honestly, it dosnt matter if you shoot them, snort them, smokem or eatem opiates will fuck you.

you wont even realize it either, everything will be fine because shit man, you aint no junkie. you could quit if you wanted too, but why? your not addicted right?

your never addicted untill you try to quit. and even then your brain will find a reason to believe you dont have a problem, just so you can use again.

its like your brain plays tricks on you, it will find reasons to use. it will do anything it can to justify your use.

how many times have you said "i dont have a problem, i could quit if i really wanted too"

but think about it, if it were that easy we wouldnt have drug addicts now would we.

do yourself a favor and stay away from opiates, if youve already opened up pandoras box then just quit while your ahead. nothing good comes from the use of this type of drug.

these kinds of drugs take over your mind and your life.

i wish i had never ever touched an opiate, i wish i had no idea what it felt like.

i feel that using opiates was one of the biggest mistakes of my life.

if your reading this, and your using opiates then take my advice and quit while your ahead.

if youve never touched one, keep it that way. you will thank yourself. in this case ignorance truly is bliss.

 

Fuck that, opiates of all kinds are the shit as long as you don't go overboard. Im 21 years old and have been using opiates since i was 15 and Im not 'addicted' as you seem to think all opiate users are. Some of my family members are in chronic pain and they always give me some of their Oxy (roxicodone 30's, oxycontin 40's) for free because they don't need it all and they know how much i like the opiates, so it's all good.

There's nothing better than loading up a shot of 60 mg's roxicodone :drool:
Sometimes i will use 2-3 times a day for a week and then i won't use at all for a while. Currently i have been using about 30-75 mg's a day for like 2 weeks and i can stop no problem. I have never had opiate WD's and i have been using for 6 years with no problems.

So to everyone reading this, OPIATES ARE THE BEST DRUG(S) EVER (my opinion) :agree: Just don't go overboard and everything will be fine.

Tomorrow one of my family members will be getting his roxicodone script filled arty: It's gonna be one good day.

 

Hey I got to agree with stonedsober. Every one I used hard opiates and hard drugs with manily Herion and Crack/coke is now hooked and a addicted and there life has been affected in a negative way becasue of using. A few of my frinds are 6 feet becasue of Herion.Oxymorph hey maybe it will never get out of control for you ut the odds are if you keep using it will. I heard that shit all the time and use to say the same shit myself when I was 21 and using.I always tried to down play my addiction to opiates as much as possible , Saying I can handle this shit, I only sniff Herion I don't shoot it, I never use more then 3 days in a row so I will never get a habit,I will never steal for my drugs etc .The bottom line was I thought I had control and was stronger then other people who I saw get addicted. We'll after awhile all that shit went down the drain and I became a full blown Junky and did not even see it happen until it was to dam late. From there on out every day my addiction became worse and worse.I was a total scum bag who would steal any thing that was not nailed down just to pawn it for a few bags of Herion and some coke. I did not give to shits who I fucked over My Family,My Girl,My Frinds,etc I just cared about not getting sick and loved getting high so much I would do any thing to get it and fuckover whoever.Now that I think back on it if I did not stop I would eather be in prison, a homeless drug addict on the streets of New York, Or Dead !!!! That was my only 3 options in life when I was strung out. And I never thought when I first started using that any of those 3 things would ever happen to me in a fucking million years.But if I keep on using it was 100% certain they would. Shit I know I like to preach sometimes on hear but if that preaching helps one person stay away from going down the path of hard core drug addiction then I think its all for the better, I just wish the kids who are just getting into hard drugs could see what there life will be like a few years down the road, If you could see that I don't think you would get involved in Hard Drugs and maybe me telling them this can help Who knows ??? The negative effects from Opiates outweigh the positive effects about 1000 to 1. Being addicted to a Drugs sucks balls real bad its buy no means fun it is the worst point of your life !!!! HeyIf you want to loose every thing and every one you love well then go out and start doing hard drugs and get a opiate addcition it will take some time but you will get there !!!!!

 

Nah I've used opiates before, probably under 15-20 times, and I haven't used them in months because I don't feel like they are worth my money. I'd prefer to save that money and put it towards something useful, like a car, a psychedelic, a colorful hat, a broken wheelchair, or a toy train that has taught itself to do backflips. If the opiates are free, yeah sure why not, but otherwise I'm kinda meh about it.


Although I can see where you're coming from, a lot of people have some verrry weak wills out there.

 

Opiates are not stupid. People are stupid.

Some people seem to think that they can load up on oxycontin's for 3 weeks straight everyday every HOUR of the day, and not get addicted. To those people, fuck you. You kind of asked for it.

I have been using opiates for quite some time now (I'm stoned right now, not bothering to count) but I have NEVER been addicted to them. I love them, but that's a whole different ballgame.

I honestly believe that getting addicted to opiates is actually a hard thing to do unless you're either prescribed them and taking them AS prescribed (because it's over a long period of time) or if you're binging like they're going out of style (once again, long periods of being fucked continually)

If you get addicted, you fucked yourself. Don't blame the drug.

 

Juts wait until this becomes a thing of the past :tongue:
Im not trying to come at you Oxymorph but if you've never had withdraw pains then you are in for a serious slap in the face when it finally comes at you. It's one thing to get them for free and another to take them everyday for 2 weeks, trust me you will find out the hard way. When your entire body aches to the point that to be conscious is pure hell, but find yourself unable to sleep, throwing up, and staring at the wall wishing that you could take just one roxicodone to ease yourself down, you will see what I mean. Does it matter though? No, only if you let phsyical and mental pain bother you. I could really care less and have gone in and out of that back and forth hell and heaven for the past 8 years. It's up to you to let it destroy you, but pain is subjective and it wont kill you at the amounts your using. Just, whatever you do, dont tell yourself that withdraw pains will escape you forever, becuase I promise you, it's coming.
namaste family -

 

I've used opiates less than 9 times in my entire life. I tried heroin once and stayed away from it. Why? because I liked it so much that it scared me. I dont really plan on using them again anytime soon though. I guess I like meth too much to tell you the truth.

I have some friends who are smack junkies. A couple of them were able to quit, but there are a few out there who are hardcore addicts trying to quit, and I always hear "just one more hit" from them. Its patethic. They're fun, but to be addicted to them is a pain in the ass.

But as far as addiction goes, I dont know what you can say about me. I was in a 3 month meth binge (well I did get some sleep, but I was usuall up for 2-3 days at a time, the most being 5 days), and one day I just decided to stop, and the funny thing is that I stopped just fine. I didnt touch meth at all for a couple of months after that. Right now, I smoke it sometimes, but I dont go overboard with it. I dont know how I didnt go overboard with this stuff.... maybe its because I prefer marijuana and other psychedelics to meth.

 

Twizz come on man I like some of your post about drugs but your 19 years old and are pretty new to hard opiates. You are still puking form Opiates like your post said the other day. You still have a long way to go down the road of opiate use and worse yet opiate addiction. You also make post about how you can't get addcited to them and you don't know why. This shows me that your use is not all that bad and you are not a hard core opiate addcit which you should be happy about and maybe think about quitting now before its to late ? I can only hope you do becasue if you are using like you say you do its only a metter of time before you are strung out ! But you do love to defend opiates and bost like they have no control over you or your life at all, Its the classic signs of someone who is in total denial about there drug use ? If you are using like you say you do its only a matter of time before the shit hits the fam with your addiction. And to say opiates are not the probelm people are just tells me that you really no nothing about opiate addcition at all. Opiates hook different types of people all the time, it has nothing to do with your will power or constitution it has to do with loving the fucking high and when you finally do get hooked not wanting to get sick and go threw withdrawl.Thats the bottom line whypeople get addicted. Opiates affect people from all walks of life and from all social backgrounds and classes they do not discriminate at all, Any one can become addicted.You can think all that you want that you have total control over your use and say it will never happen to you.Becasue I have heard that same line of bull shit 1000 times from addcits over the years. Dam I use to spit that same shit out myself for years. I promise you this keep doing them like you are now and you will get addicted real fast if you are not already. Usally people who boast about not being able to get addcited and think they have total control over there use are the first to get addicted and loose control real fast there life might be like that now exsept they just don't see it. If you keep using like you do lets see what your life will be like when you are 25 ? The hell with 25, 1 year from now your life will be worse off if you keep using like you do now. I am 100% sure you will be strung out and have a major Herion/opiate addiction if you keep using like you do now. It will all come to a head ounce you wake up in the morning dope sick you will then wish you never fucked with this shit at all then. I just wish you could see now how bad opiates will affect your life in a negative way if they have not already ? But on the other hand you are young only 19 and so I really don't exspect you do wake up now ? I was 28 when I finallly woke up and knew my life was total shit and admitted to myself that I had no control over my drug use !!! Its just a good thing that I did not end up in prison or worse yet dead before that happend !!!!! Hey I still use Herion and hard drugs all the time and love to talk about them. But I am not stupid I know dam well what they do to people. I just don't give a shit, If someone ask me about hard drugs I am going to tell them the truth I am not going to sugar coat what is probably going to happen ouce they start using hard drugs. Yeah they feel great and you can have alot of fun times but you have to pay for it and it takes its toll on you. Becasue 99/100 its going to affect your life in a negative way and thats a fact !!!!!!

 

Just because I puke, it doesn't mean that I'm new to opiates. It just means that I'm smart enough to put them down before I start to fiend for them.

I have plenty of self-control whether you believe me or not.

And opiates AREN'T the problem. It's people who get addicted to them. Obviously if some people can do them without NEEDING them like you do, then they aren't so addicting. You're just looking for an excuse to keep using them.

Why are they addictive? Because you pumped so much into YOUR OWN system to get that way. They didn't fly into your needle and into your vein.

 

Twizz asking why opiates are addictive is like asking why Hitler was dangerous. Its a pretty simple answer its a drug that is Psycially addicting and psychologicaly addicting and the high is fucking great and people want to feel that high over and over. I guess all the tens of millions of people who are addicted to them are just weak and not as strong as you are then. please wake up any one can get addicted to opiates it has nothing at all to do with the type of person you are at all.Opiate Addicts come from all walks of life !!!!

 

While it is a drug and it is physicaly and mentally addicting, people are at fault for the addictions as well. Would someone with the will power of a buddhist monk become addicted to opiates, let alone anything? Will power is the way to overcome and to prevent addictions and the people who are addicted to opiates have a weak will.


Stop being stubborn both of you. Both the drug and the people are at fault.

 

You just proved me right. I'm fucking saying ITS NOT THE DRUG THAT IS THE PROBLEM. It's the people who figure they're not going to get addicted, then they become completely careless about what they're doing to themselves.

You can't sit there and tell me that it's the drug's fault. Self-control is the key, no matter what you think.

 

I do agree to a point at first yes self control does come into play. But after awhile the brain wants the feeling more and more and wants it more powerful, Hence the person starts using more powerful opiates and starts using more and more. I have witnessed so many people start using Vicoden and a year or two later down the road there Iving Herion or OC's and addiction is totaly running there life. 99% of the time opiate users progress in there using and thats when addiction happens, It can happen with any drug, But opiates seem to grab people so much more easier then others ? I guess you are tight Twizz to a point. I myself can use hard opiates now in a recreational way. But to get to that point where I could use in a moderate way it took alot of years of addiction and knowing I never want to get addicted to them again becasue I know how dam horrible it is. But the average person who has never been addicted to opiates never thinks it will happen to them until its to late. also with younger people they think that it will never happen to them, Its harder When your younger you think your dam invincible and nothing can hurt you. I learned that lesson the hard way becasue it did happen to me. I thought I could use Herion for one week straightand nothing at all would happen. And I thought I could handle physical addiction if it ever happend and blow it right off like that. but I was sadly mistaken I got a habbit just like every one else and really becasme a scum bag junkie. The bottom line is yes there are people who can use opiates recreational but its alot harder then with most other drugs ? I tend not to see recreational use to much most people I know who used harder opiates Herion,OC's,Dilaudid,etc are now full blown addicts or ounce were. eather or there life was affected in a negative way becasue of them. Its a very thin line between addiction and using ? And ouce you are addicted to opiates its the hardest addiction to brake hands down I have ever seen.Its so dam psychologicayl and physicaly addicting.

 

Okay, I agree with you on this.

And yes, I can also agree that it is 99.9% of the time the fact that someone wants to upgrade or get that "better high" which ends up getting them addicted.

However, I have pushed the needle, chased the dragon, insufflated, parachuted, popped 'em whole, everything shy of plugging (who wants to). I did the needle thing maybe 5 or 6 times, then stopped. I haven't touched the needle since, nor do I have the will to use a needle.

I still chase it on foil because let's face it- sometimes you can only get a 5 or 10mg line, and that does basically nothing in your nose. However, I hate the taste and smell and would really rather not do it. I just like my opiates.

I wouldn't call it addiction, I just enjoy them. However, I believe that if I just let myself go, it wouldn`t take long for me to get addicted. I know that though, so I can control my urges.

If this is hard to make sense of, it`s because I haven`t had a fucking cigarette in like 3 days and weed for 3 days too.

cigs are my only addiction, but it`s more of a habit.

 

mind over matter.

 

eh, I might have taken heed, but all my good connections are gone(not arrested, just a lifestyle change), and it's not like I'm gonna pay a dollar a mg from some skater-dude moron.

and I've never been addicted, mainly because I'm lame. If I do some shit, I'll usually take a two or three week period off, because I'm cheap and if I didn't I'd spend all my money. And I don't cheat thanks to strong willpower. Plus I know all about the devilish ways in which an addicted mind will try and get its fix, thanks to a long battle with nicotine. Hooray for no addictions!!!

 

"Take it away and but I want more and more
One day I'm gonna lose the war"

 

Hitler was dangerous, in part, because of his growing fascination with hypodermic syringes and methamphetamine (thank you, Dr Morrell).

 

im just so tired of hearing all tehse 16 to 22 year old know it alls.....honestly it takes years and years of nasty abusing until you even get the worst of these WDs....and until then some of tehse guys are right....they are easy to quit and put down. it took me 8 years of abusing opiates until they grabbed me tp the point i was fucked! to all these kids on here, sit back and listen to your elders, they are just trying to help so you dont go down the exact same path as them! hell i aint exactly old yet, im 28 years old but i started doing drugs at age 14 and hitting them hard at age 17....i knew it all like these kids.....but it wasnt until a few years ago until i knew i was in trouble......OPIATES ARE FOR SEVEIRE PAIN AND NOT ENTENDED FOR DAILY REC USE!
there is no happy medium for this drug, pot is the only drug i know that is safe to use for recreation....and hell that aint much of a drug ya know.....be carefull guys! im now 1 month sobor from opiates and amd starting to get my life back..... i know have an extra $1,000+ a month to spend on my family and my hotrods i build....and i can say spending money on drugs makes you feel like a complete loser! it did me anyways...... jake

 

stonedsober can kiss my ass. anyone who agrees with him is a dumbass. ya, no shit opiates are addictive, you are officially as intelligent as a 7th grade health teacher. this forum is called "hip" for a reason, its not for a bunch of namby-pambys to sit around bitching about how they knowingly got involved with a dangerous/addictive chemical, realized they have zero will-power, and then blame the chemical. youre an ass. go back to rehab or the police academy from whence you came, and leave these innocent junkies alone. No one here asked for your advice and I for one sure as hell dont give a shit about you opinion.