so here's the newest devellopments, we are still just a very few people trying to get this going looking for more people. the plan was to start a co-op or to start a non-profit but there is too much red tape and not enough dedicated people in our group to really devote time to this. so instead of the co-op buying the land for the group the plan is to have someone buy it outright and then once the co-op is up and running to have it given/sold to the group for shares. the good news is that I talked to the bank and they approved me for a loan to buy land. this means that I won't have to wait for other people to show up to start something. The short term goal is to have land by the end of this year. I'll try and keep people posted. I also have a diary section on the SSS website if people want to read up what's been going on. The website is also being reorganised so it may be a little slow or hard to find it. thanks for the positive thoughts.