son of a bitch... addiction may be creeping

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by kil0, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    SHIT, in the last week & a half, I've bumped up my usage of opiates from my regular once a week to like 3 times a week. And Im starting to enjoy it and practically want to do some right now, eventhough I did some last night.


    The only ray of light here is that it would be extremely difficult for me to get addicted to OxyContin to the point of everyday/every other day usage for 2 reasons:
    1. Funds. I dont know where the fuck some people get the money to suport such a habbit. Some niggas here do one or two OCs a day, and they live where 80s go for 60-80 a pop. Thats fuckin crazy, I cant even afford this addiction even though I pay like 20-30 a pop for my 80s.
    2. Supply. Most of the members Im cool here with know my situation on the subject. I cant find roxis or OCs sometimes for like a month or two on end.
    But the problem is I got some right now, so I have the opportunity to use if choose to. But I've done oxy maybe 4 or 5 days in the last 12. The good part is I cant get fully addicted because of the two reasons above, but I see a mild form of the addiction coming. I just woke up and I feel like doin some OC.

    Do you fellas think I'll be straight? Should I even use right now? Regardless, both the quantities of OCs and money are very limited, so when I run out, even if I use today, Im not getting anymore for another long time. What's y'all input?
     
  2. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    Well it's obviously a habit that needs kicking before it's too late, but only you can make the choice.
    Question is, will you?
     
  3. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    When the lack of funds is replaced by finding a way to make the money no matter what, then your fucked. The problem is, you are already addicted Kil0 and you just cant see it. Opiate addiction is far removed from other addictions. The way they operate is so sneaky, that if you even consider the idea that addiction is creeping in, trust me, your already there. Nobody thinks they are addicted until it's too late. You are not addicted like a dope fiend, you are addicted like I was when I used Morphine in abusive amounts twice a week for a long time. Where you are right now is ok, if you run out of funds or product and can live a normal life otherwise, not spending every last cent you make on opiates or trying to find other ways to support your desire to get some when you know you cant afford it, then you are ok. The moment you consider stealing, delay paying bills, or any other shady means to get you what you want, then you need to stop immediately.
     
  4. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    You're right, I know. Basically, why else would I post this thread.

    Yeah, that's what Im like 99.999999% sure would happen. because..


    ..I have a lot of self-control resposibility on my shoulders, so that will never happen.
     
  5. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    I believe you kil0. I didnt mean any offence at all, and I dont mean to imply that you would act in this way someday down the line to support a habit that you for the most part seem to have under control.
    Im just saying that if you find yourself even thinking about an easy steal that no one would notice and you wouldnt get caught, that's when you have a serious problem on your hands. All Im saying is if you start thinking like that, then its time to take a deep look at what it is you want out of life that you are turning to opiates for instead, trying to fill an emty void in your heart.
    I dont think negatively of you at all, and I have no reason to believe you are capable of theft or anything like that. Im just saying than any of us could go that route given the circumstances, if life suddenly got really bad for you, it's easy to turn to stealing and drug abuse when you feel backed into a corner and feel like life is ruined. Anything can happen, you know? So Im just trying to throw out a warning for you, someone I consider a friend and have respect for.
    God bless
     
  6. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    Dont worry bro, I took no offense whatsoever. You were just commenting on the downward spiral that could "possibly" happen.


    Anyways, the whole reason for the post is, GODDAMN, last night was magical. fuck, I wanted that magical feeling to never go away :(
     
  7. Guitar

    Guitar Senior Member

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    Getting addicted to opiates is the most subtle thing , but at least your realizing your already on that path. Most people don't, I was in denial a long time about ever being addicted, just because I wouldn't get sick without them. But I still did bad things to get my drugs, which I'm ashamed to say, and something I would never do again. Opiate addiction makes you do crazy things. My old best friend, hacked into his parents account and stole over 5000 dollars and basically had them in finanicial trouble. If your already realizing the path your on, than thats a good first step. Even though you've given 2 reasons why you couldn't become addicted, that really doesn't mean shit. There's homeless people who find a way to shoot dope 24/7. So my advice would be to finish your stash, and take a couple months off so you don't see the real horrors of addiction.
     
  8. RoxStar

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  9. Guitar

    Guitar Senior Member

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    I would use suboxone, try to get your hands on an 8mg pill. Since your tolerance is so low, all you will need is 1mg to start off with. One 8 mg pill could last you 10 days, and slowly decrease the amount you take. This would be the most painless way to do it in my opinion. If you can't get your hands on that, then I'd suggest just weaning down on the oxycodone, but for me thats impossible. I can't have an 80 in my hand and expect to have it last for like 4-6 days. Once I do that first bump, that pill will be gone by the end of the day. Realistically the best way to quit is cold turkey, but you must have a lot of motivation and willpower.
     
  10. Prod

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    Just goes to show that you never thought you could get addicted kil0 but it can happen to anyone and slowly creeps up on you. I'm in the middle of a detox right now because I was addicted and my habit got out of control and could not afford it. If I were you I would quit while you were ahead and completely stop fucking with them at least for a little while or limit your use to way less like once every two weeks maybe or whatever because the opiate addiction is unavoidable with frequent use and will always come and bite you in the ass I don't care who you are. I have a very high IQ, go to a prestigious college for Computer Science, hold a steady job at a well known hospital, and am very strong willed and minded but that shit got me anyway. So in conclusion watch out for yourself and decide on what you think would be best for you as far as abstaining and dealing with your situation. Good luck and if you ever need to chat you can hit me up on AIM as I am going through detox at the moment and am always willing to chat.
     
  11. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

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    damn dude, thats too bad.

    yea, its a bitch, the sneakiest motherfucker out there in terms of addictions. other ones always just seem pretty obvious. and it happens to everyone, who thinks that they have it under control, which sucks. i've done some greasy shit back in the day for drugs, i'm not happy about it, but they really just blur your views on things. and its true, junkies on the street are able to scrounge up money for a fix so don't exclude yourself from the financial aspect of it.

    and it almost always tends to go from monthly usage, to twice a month, then weekly, then a few days a week and then just further down the spiral. the fucking absolute worst part about opiates is that they slow down time like no other, maybe its just me, but like the next couple of days after no opiates feels like weeks or eternity. i think you should just take a break somehow, it might be almost impossible with your stash... but just keep busy. keep real busy. and switch it up. smoke a ton of weed if you have to, get your mind off of them. do not drink, that might just make you do more. do benzos, cocaine maybe, if you can control the comedown with something other than opiates.

    this is just what worked for me when i wasn't doing or trying not to do opiates, and i can say, marijuana saved me, booze helped a bit. i don't know, just trying to help, take my advice or leave it. but honestly, Shocbomb would probably be the most help on this.
     
  12. ratgirldjh69

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    i was a H addict for over 7 years. and believe me when you are sick you will find money to get more. i did things i never would have thought i was capable of doing. finally i went on methadone for 2 years and then it took me 2 months to kick that when i was finally on 5 mil. - and i mean 2 months of being sick as a dog!
    so i would suggest like others have that to stop before it gets out of control and before you get too severe of w/d symptoms. taper down and then skip days and keep tapering.
    good luck!
    djh
     
  13. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    But my addiction is purely psychologial, not at all physical. I did oxy last night again, and still, I've never felt a lick of withdrawals in my life.

    Man definitely. If I could still smoke weed like normal without worrying about going to prison I would still be happily smokin, never trying anything else. In january when I got out on probation, thats when I started experimenting with pills and other shit 2 get high, cuz I couldnt smoke herb. But hopefully I can go back to weed-only after I get off probation.
     
  14. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

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    oh damn man, that fucking sucks. that really fucking sucks, because it helps with everything. then i would just recommend enough booze to forget about the opiates for a little while and just staying busy.
     
  15. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    yeah, thats pretty much what's gonna happen. atleast for one more year. Because the truth is, I kinda dont like drinking that much anymore. I still do it, but for x or y reason I just dont find it as entertaining as I used to.
     
  16. -beatnick

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    well i'm saying thats the whole idea. replace something you don't like as much with something you fucking love, because it'll be easier to control you know, kind of that approach.

    thats just what i'd do, but i do love alcohol.
     
  17. jaefoxy

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    I really wish you guys just wouldn't use prescription pills at all. My friend was sold fake pills before and he ended up overdosing and dying. They looked normal, but I guess looks can be decieving. Oh and on top of that, his friends were with him when he died and I guess they were scared to tell anyone so they took him up to his room and put him in his bed and since they were so fucked up on pills too they stole his money and whatever pills he had locked in his safe. Like someone else has mentioned, you dont have to be a bad person to do something fucked up to feed your addiction, and you dont have to be dumb to overdose, you just never know what will happen. If you are going to do it, do it in moderation, dont make it a weekly thing, thats when it becomes routine. Just smoke some herb and be happy. Peace.


    EDIT: As a matter of fact, why dont you sell your stash, and buy something you've been wanting? It's always nice to make some quick money and whatever you buy will mean more to you because the money came from you trying to help and better yourself. (I also didnt realize you couldnt smoke weed, so ignore the smoke some herb part lol. Maybe you could just try some shrooms or something every couple of months, so it's kind of something you can look forward to. I'm not trying to encourage you to try all of the drugs out there but if you feel the need to do something its better doing something natural in my mind)
     
  18. Feelings Of U4ia

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    I never got WD's from occasional use. As soon as it starts becoming a 3-4 day a week habit, you will see. I used to think I would never have WD's either, I almost thought people were just overreacting and being a baby because they didn't have opiates. WD's are serious.

    Oh yeah, and it WILL become a 3-4 day a week habit eventually, unless you quit altogether.
     
  19. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

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    do you not understand that these are not friends, just drug buddies and fellow junkies? a real friend would've called the ambulance, stuck him in the shower, and poured buckets of iced water on him while giving him mouth to mouth. also, what the fuck are you talking about on an opiate forum, would you rather everyone here switched from any pills to heroin, because one pill was misidentified when heroin can be from 5%-~90% pure.

    just read your post, it doesn't make much sense, and i'm not trying to be an ass, but like really. and its a helluva ton easier to not overdose on pills because you know exactly how much of what you're doing. and also i usually looked up the stamps on the pills to see if it was legit unless i was with some experienced friends.

    EDIT: As a matter of fact, why dont you sell your stash, and buy something you've been wanting? It's always nice to make some quick money and whatever you buy will mean more to you because the money came from you trying to help and better yourself. (I also didnt realize you couldnt smoke weed, so ignore the smoke some herb part lol. Maybe you could just try some shrooms or something every couple of months, so it's kind of something you can look forward to. I'm not trying to encourage you to try all of the drugs out there but if you feel the need to do something its better doing something natural in my mind)

    lol, so now you're suggesting he harm other people? i just am not understanding you here i guess, but ain't that kind of fucking evil. like if he can't control himself then yea, but not as a first suggestion, jeez.
     
  20. Feelings Of U4ia

    Feelings Of U4ia Senior Member

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    Fake pharmaceutical pills? Give me a break.

    On top of that, I can't fucking STAND when people preach about other drugs then go on to say "just smoke some weed instead!"

    God, I can't stand that shit.

    Especially on a forum ABOUT other drugs. Stay in the Marijuana forums if you don't like pharmaceuticals, please.
     

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