Someone please define rape to me

I think it's where consent is not given during sex, and someone forces them self on another person.

Many feminists seem to think that for example, when a girl and a guy have consensual sex, and the girl later claims rape due to for example it being too rough or him being a total dick before, it's rape. I just want a clear definition.

 

Oh, look, another troll.

Rape doesn't have to involve force at all. Rape is sexual contact or penetration without informed consent. Period. If you "trick" someone into having sex, you've raped them, for example.

 

I assure you I'm not a troll. I love to debate and want to challenge feminists.

What do you mean by trick? I can understand if the woman was drugged. But what do you mean by tricked? If a girl breaks up with her boyfriend and I make her feel good and loved then have sex with her, I raped her?

 

Yes, with a name like "whip hoze" I'm sure you're just an inquisitive little thing, aren't you?

That doesn't sound like trickery to me. Interesting that you formulated such a scenario in response to my statement. Trickery = deceit.

 

Wasn't meant to be offensive at all. It's my username for xbox and other thing...

Ok so please explain a situation where this happens. For example, if I take advantage of a young girl and have sex with her for some quick physical pleasure, is that rape if even she was down to have sex?

 

I think it is when she says: 'no'.

 

Oh, I don't doubt you use it for other things. I'm questioning the original source of it altogether. What do you claim it means (the rest of us can tell right off the bat - I"m just curious as to how you justify it).

Again with the...unique scenario you've introduced. What do YOU mean by "take advantage?"

I'll give you an example. A couple of years ago there was a case where a guy's brother slipped into bed one night with a sleeping woman. She woke up and believed it to be her husband, and she ended up having sex with him. That is a rape, since the circumstances created by the brother led her to believe something that wasn't true (which then led to sex). Had she known it was her brother in law, she would not have engaged in sex with him.

 

I agree. I also think rape is sick.. Makes me very uncomfortable seeing rape scenes in movies or watching real rape on the internet (out of pure curiosity, just a couple times).

However, it seems that many feminists seem to think that "If two people have sex, then the girl claims it's rape, it's rape!" What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Many innocent lives and reputations have been ruined due to BS rape claims. Why is this?

 

And many, many more lives have been ruined as a result of real rape.

 

Lol no clue. My friend used it once for his PC name and I just used it since it was easy to remember.

Well that is rape...

By taking advanmtage of, I mean pure lies and trickery. You know those womanizers or high school kids who make women feel good, have sex but really just regard them as trash and leave. But it isn't rape because she agreed to sex right?

 

I agree, I think rape is worse than murder as you have to live with it.

Is that the girl who committed suicide after "Getting raped" by 4 boys? That sotry I'm skeptical of. I have a feeling that she got banged by 4 boys or sucked them all off (sorry for language) and couldn't handle the humiliation at school.

 

I imagine even more have been ruined by a 'code of silence' and others not believing the woman. Yeah, sure, many innocent lives and reputations have been ruined due to BS rape claims. Why? I imagine in some cases it is purely to ruin the reputation etc. Some might have been treated badly by the man - been treated as nothing more than a sex object. Refusing sex not being an option etc. A multitude of other reasons.

I think you need to wait for some feminist, here, to actual say such things as: "If two people have sex, then the girl claims it's rape, it's rape!"
I've never heard it said, tbh.

 

If you had to lie about something substantive to them to get them to have sex with you, then it's probably rape. For example, telling a girl she's pretty and you love her and all of that and her having sex with you, is probably not rape. But if you told her you didn't have HIV (for example) so she'd have sex with you, then it is a rape because, had she known you had HIV she would not have had sex with you. By consenting (when you lied), her consent was not "informed" in that she wasn't fully informed of the facts. You'd tricked her. There's a difference between tricking someone and merely lying to them.

 

And what evidence do you have for this? Stay on the right side of tasteful, if you can.

 

The HIV thing is not rape, it's just a case of a sick human being infecting others. It's not rape because she consented to having sex with him. I thought this was the definition we agreed too?

 

He doesn't have any, of course. And given his user name, I'm 110% certain he's not here to have a civil discussion about the subject. He's just baiting.

 

Did you miss the part about "informed" consent? And actually it is rape (and criminal assault in most states). Several courts have said it is.

 

Trust me, I have heard enough which is why I came to a forum to debate. Look here and try and listen to their arguments on rape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nvYyGTmcP80

No evidence really. But I find a couple things to be quite funny. If a picture of the rape was spread, why didn't anyone comfort her? Everyone is quick to jump on the bandwagon to support rape victims, I don't think her friends and classmates would have shunned her for getting raped.

 

I don't mind biting for a while.

 

Holy cow, you are totally clueless.