Some Questions about lsd

Yea, well I came close to getting some lsd a while ago, but it didn't work out...


Anyways, I have another opportunity coming up, so I have a few questions.

First, I'm 16, and have been smoking weed for about 6 months, if that is of any consequence.

i suppose I am of sound mind, but I've never experienced any other mind than my own... The only difference I really think I have over normal people lies in the fact that occasionally, I am very hard on myself, and start to get a very pessimistic world view, and I often wonder exactly what the point is... I worry that my life is very shallow and unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and I worry that I never will matter...

When smoking weed, it's about 50/50 whether I will get a euphoric high or a pessimistic self reflective high.

Anyways, my question is whether you think I am ready to try lsd, at this point in my life. If I'm not, I'm more than willing to wait, but It seems to be something I'd really love to try... I just worry somewhat that the feelings of worthlessness and pointlesness might take over.

 

well, if you want to face the truth, eat a couple tabs.

if you want to *try* to sort some things out first, good luck, and then you can drop some acid in a few years. i'm not so sure that i recommend this option. i do not discourage it either.

i empathize with what you are saying about pointlessness and about grand scheme of things. i too am introspective (aka high self awareness) and can be overly critical of myself at times. these sorts of thoughts can be overwhelming and frightening or can be magnificant during an acid trip, really. regardless, these thoughts will only enhance the nature of you; LSD will most likely show you things you have and have not thought about. you may very well gain significant insight about youself, these thoughts, human nature, the world, etc. the most important thing i can tell you is that you must remember that life is life and it is what it is and despite your efforts do change things, reality is reality. this must be accepted and you must roll with it at every turn in life and at every curve in the trip. flow. allow whatever occurs to enter you and also to escape you. do not resist ANYTHING. this is sound advice; but, it only works if you truly understand it. understand.

peace.

ps. you may consider some enlightening passages from the text. one of my best trips occured after reading "the only dance there is" by Ram Dass. he speaks about many things about life: love, happiness, acceptance, consciousness, etc. and talks a lot about LSD. he essentially explains why people have bad trips. he talks about the heart, emotion, and life. after understanding what he said, i had one of the best acid trips of my life. i don't think i could ever have a "bad" trip now. once the knowledge enters you, and you process it, you will be all set. if you ever experience fear in your life, you must read this especially if you are going to trip. he has a section on "fear and higher consciousness." this will change your life in combination with LSD. good luck.

 

thanks for the advice, I will get a copy of that book as soon as I can. I think I understand what you are talking about, with the not resisting anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you mean that I should not be afraid to embrace any discovered truth about myself during the trip?

How old were you when you first used lsd?

 

LSD is the kind of thing where you cant read a book or listen to other people or have someone else experience it for you.. You have to drop and sit back and get ready for something you never experienced before.. nothing will ever truly prepare you for an LSD trip.

 

i disagree. through out my search iv realized that the power lies with us as creaters of reality. we do have the power to change...to change ourselves...our surroundings...our reality. take for example a man who lives in a dark...pessamistic reality. by changing his thinking patterns, he can change his pessamistic attitude, thus changing his reality. (as it is a far different reality) your reality is only in control so long as you accept it as such, and decide to do nothing. i believe an individual can take this as far as they choose, as long as they possess the wisdom of how to properly operate their own mind. we are all gods in the crysalis my friend.

 

yes, you should not be afraid to embrace any discovered truth about yourself, about life, abotu anything. you said it yourself. those are good words. now just make sure you feel it inside because otherwise you are likely to forget during the trip unless you write it down and put it in your pocket, or have it ingrained into your mind. yeah, just general acceptance is the key, i think. i was talking with someone tonight about this same idea. the WRONG apoproach would be to fight what you are experiencing. if you resist or fight, things get overwhelming - i know. when you stop caring or placing attachment to all the things you see/experience, and just accept everything that flows through you, things remain peaceful.

i was 16 when i first tried it. also, i ate a large amount and tripped for 18 hours on the beach. i wrote a short novella about it the next month.... i didn't try shrooms until a year later.

i agree with this mostly. for a first-timer LSD will be an experience unlike anythign else and it is impossible to completely describe the experience to a non-user. HOWEVER, i know for sure that a few basic concepts can help you out significantly; and that is what the poster was looking for. we are all different and respond to different insights, but i guarantee you that if our first-timer here reads "the only dance there is" and feels a CONNECTION to the teachings in that book, it WILL do him wonders on any trip he ever chooses to take.

oops, sorry i was making things simple and specific to the POSTER'S concerns. obviously reality changes on a daily basis... and yes, we are free to change ourselves at any moment. but as far as tripping goes, i don't think our first-timer here should be trying to rework is persona on a first trip! but yes, i agree with your input, but that is a different discussion (and for a different audience) all together.

 

jesus christ...boy...you sound like a very intelligent discerning aware young man. aware of his insignificance in the grand scheme of things. with that kind of awareness, you must simuentaneously have a great respect for each moment...each thought...consequence...LIFE...in general.. don't you think lsd is one of those things fake joy riders do? unlike the real introspectors who face reality in it's clear valuable aloneness..let the brain rest it sounds like it's filling with wisdom at a great speed, in a young body...i doubt it would appriciate the reverberations of a quick 'trip into untimely bliss'
BOY...you know treasures like that come with a perserveance for truth of your situation... trying to jump start a car does damage to the expectancy...you don't know how much.... it's one of those crazy descisions...a short life deserves short pleasures...a long life prepares...
jesus.c if you understand what i am saying then. you are a wise boy. and no need to be cool if you already are...

 

just do it, man, if you dont matter to the grand scheme, then why does it matter if you have a bad trip? which, by the way, only pussies really ever do anyway. if your that interested in it that much, you will probably love it! but, what seems to make sense and what feels like enlightenment while on acid isnt always real, it's just a lot of fun that people seem to take very seriously, i know i used to. now when i trip i just laugh and try not to feel the bad vibes from everyone else in the world, because they are always there.

 

you sound pretty naive... not that its particularly a bad thing, since many people go through this stage at some point in their lives
but theres really no point in getting worked up over this kind of thing... when you ponder such inhuman questions, you shouldnt expect for there to be a human answer
and I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you will never "matter", but if your definition of meaning constitutes of anything besides the kind of trivialities of which most people spend their life in pursuit, then you really shouldnt care about having it for yourself because you never will

if and when you decide to use lsd, you will end up facing alot of introspection... but you have to face it eventually
theres no sense in hiding from it, because youre already facing it
using lsd will just give you some new perspectives and help you get through this introspective phase quicker, and although it may make you uncomfortable for awhile, its a good experience
just remember that lsd shouldnt be taken lightly, nor should it be taken too seriously

relayers post is also a good way of explaining it

just remember to have fun when youre on acid, and dont freak out when you start to have unusual perceptual changes. when you buy the ticket, you take the ride

 

have any of you acid trippers done the research into literal neurobrain chemical alterations from the chemicals you put in there?
just wondering how many look in to what you put in...on the science side...?
it's got to be a prime interest right?....to know what the deal is..anyone?

 

I think lsd mimics the effects of dopamine and serotonin
thats about as much as I know lol

 

its no more than me...
i was asking the committed ones...how far they 'get into' [research,explore, ]acid...or if they just take it time afte time..
do they know their subject??! i never bothered to look iit up..so who knows what really goes on..

 

The way LSD affects the brain is largely unknown due to a lack of clinical research; however, it's theorized that LSD (and other psychedelics) attach to the 5-HT receptor (serotonin), causing the serotonin to rush into the brain in higher than average amounts.

 

thats what chocolate does...and ritalin....thats a lame theory...is that really all there is known...thats so dissapointing.
doc's say... drugs=serotonin allergy=adrenaline... its so bulls**

 

LSD looks a lot like Serotonin (chemically) so it actually binds to serotonin receptors in your skull because they are fooled into thinking it is serotonin. Then the lysergide slides in and starts getting jiggy with it. Really, after the LSD attaches, it is like pretty much unknown what translates from that to a trip. It's also thought that dopamine plays a certain role in the trip too. I learned all of this a while ago, did a bunch of research and a presentation on it, but I can't remember shit now, so it was all useless. ;-)

 

well yeah i know serotonin is relesed every time you feel good.. and dopamine is released when feel relaxed... i hate science. it took it to try and find out about drugs but its a load of nonsense. what the hell is lysergide? that makes it so different to chocoltae or ritalin?

 

the molecular structure? seriously what other answer are you looking for

 

Yeah, anyone who went through 6th grade science should atleast understand the basic concept here...after that you're talking about research that hasn't been done yet as, unfortunately, human technology hasn't progessed that far yet.

Thankfully, however, LSD has recently been given the greenlight by the FDA to begin studying it's action on the brain and we will learn how LSD acts upon the brain; the fact that no one here, or anywhere, for that matter, has an explicit reply for your answer should merit the willpower to look into these things yourself and find the answers to these questions, rather than to just say "It's a bunch of non-sense, heroin = acid" and such.

Without black and white there is no color.

 

yessssss. the structure..I'm not holding up a gun for an answer here.
but for the people who are really proactive lsd...you know i thought you'd be the best ones to ask. like having some research unapproved by critics..i'd appriciate that either.
but there is none so far...
thats not anything i'm disputing! that it's an unknown territory... it's just pretty surprising we don't know anymore about it than we did 50 years ago. except that it's a mind trip..
is there really no independant research???

 

serotonin is released all the time and across many many many different situations. you wouldn't be digesting your lunch right now if it weren't for a bunch of factors, one of them being the fact that you have serotonin...
in other words, neurotransmitters overlap tremendously in their function; you cannot necessarily say serotonin does THIS and dopamine does THAT. they both have a shit-ton of roles that are interconnected.

LSD is a 5-ht agonist, for the record.

peace.