So Friday night, as some of you may know was my third trial with insufflated DPT, my first trial with 200mg insufflated DPT (the first two trials being at 150mg). I had planned to do it with my friend J, who brought another friend K along, who claimed to have done lots of LSD and said he knew what he was doing. It was 9pm and I had scaled out 150mg of DPT for each of the friends and 200mg for myself. After sitting around nervous for maybe 15-20 minutes we put bills to noses, bills into powder and snorted long and hard. The white DPT (unlike the brown) doesn't smell when just sitting around, but as soon as I had it in my nose it tasted EXACTLY like DPT had previously and I knew shit was going to get real. J sat back and said "Shit, feels like I just got a needle to my nose", while K and myself were mainly silent thinking about the nasty taste and starting to drink our Coke. J started rambling about mescaline about 3 minutes after insufflation, and I was coming up really hard. I needed quite and started wondering if I had made a mistake by doing this with people, so I moved myself onto the sofa and lay back, thinking about where this would take me. Maybe 10 minutes into it, I could not sit up. I was plastered to the bed, and the visuals were in my face. The whole room was melting, bending, crawling in the most intricate visuals. I had no idea who I was, where I was, and I could barely remember that I had done DPT. J sat up and said "Shit, I think something is wrong.", but I just gently pushed him back onto the bed and told him everything was alright. The high was changing every 30 seconds now, getting more intense, ego just pouring out one ear like I had smashed a water globe containing my ego and it was just being flushed out. The music that was playing sounded incredible, like the most wonderful thing to ever enter my ears (but doesn't it on all drugs ;p). I can't quite remember a time-line of events from here on, as everything was so intense. What I do remember is that I was lying, quivering, crawled up in the fetus position with 2 other guys who were being completley dissolved as well. The music album, which usually feels quite long, flew by in an instant - I don't even remember hearing most of it. Suddenly, J and K got up and said "Shit, I think something was wrong with this drug, I think we're dying, where are the benzos". They had brought their own benzos in fear of a possibility of the trip going strange, and they sat up and took some sublingual ativan while I was having much too fun, and I was way too far away to even consider benzos. At this point, they let the fear completley take them over, and started shouting out about something or other. We started roaming around in the house, or trying the best we could anyways. I was lulling around, talking about how it was all composed on infite love, and there was something I came to call "disc vision" happening. Basically, I was so high up, connected by so many personalities, that everything became a disc. You could see straight through, but if you tried to look to the side vision would just turn along the edges of the disc and go back to the one place you could look at - right through. I walked over to K and looked at him, and I could see his face morphing with my face morphing with J's face. Right about here, I was coming down a little bit, so I started looking around. J fell over, and knocked his head on the floor. I could not get an answer from him. He started sweating profusley, his eyes rolled up in the back of his head, and he started shaking like he was having a seizure. Suddenly his face went white, his lips went deep purple/blue and he stopped breathing. I was right by his side so I administered CPR right away, and he started breathing, stopped shaking and his face re-gained colour. I was pretty scared at this point, I was still tripping somewhat hard, and I didn't want to call an ambulance so as to avoid drug charges. I pulled J over to the sofa and dragged him up onto it, where he started sounding like he was asleep. Somewhere in the middle of this, K walked out after saying "My best friend may be dying". I stayed with J for maybe 4 hours to make sure he would be alright, at which point he woke up to go to the bathroom. He said he was fine, he remembered his name, he remembered where he was, but he said that he was just going to spend the night at my place so I let him go back to sleep on the sofa. The next day I woke up and asked him how much he remembered. At first he didn't remember that we had done the DPT, but soon it came back to him, or at least part of it. J can remember taking the DPT, but can't remember any effects he would have gotten from it, claiming he hadn't tripped. I sent him home soon after, and he said he would probably be willing to try DPT again, but I don't think I could let him.. I don't want to have the same situation on my hands ever again. It'll be interesting to see what J has to say about all this with a little bit of time.
Nope - I would never do DPT with the unknown factor (other people) while parental figures were at the house. I did have my brother around, though, and the sober point of view was pretty good to have around.
This was a super-awesome and inspiring report until the head impact, scary symptoms and CPR. Scary as shit bro! Frankly, i think your friend should get checked out by a doctor. No need to mention RC's, . . . just say something like a drunken night resulting in blow to head and blackout with the symptom set you mentioned including a friend administering brief CPR . . . just get the general system and organs checked out. Play it safe. This just re-certifies what i know to be true. Choose your settings and tripping partners very carefully (in particular for new substances or for "taking it to the next level") because you are going to get to see their true essences and it may not be pretty . . . also you will find yourself in a responsible role for those tripping with/around you, whether you want to be or not. Thank you fro sharing this report. Please, please stay safe, and please ask you friend to get checked out. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat, Meow!
Sounds like an intense trip, cannibissoul giving your friend CPR and not freaking out while high on 200 mgs of dpt. +1 for that alone, good report too!
mescalitooo lol at least your trip was good . it still sucks about your friends! it does not smell, but once you snort it you can taste it through your nose . it numbs my throat so i do not have to worry about taste.
Well the seizure may have been induced by the DPT or the knock to his head - if it was the DPT, I could imagine maybe getting seizures as the vibration can be kind of intense sometimes. I've read reports of people having seizures on psychs, and I don't *really* think the knock could have caused that. Maybe he had something loged in his throat, as he was kind of wheezing for a bit after he came back to it. I forgot to mention it in the TR, but my throat almost felt like it was swelling up right away after I snorted the DPT (But I'm guessing it was just an intense numbing sensation). I'm pretty sure he just wasn't getting enough oxygen. Yeap, that's definitely part of it, but I don't think a maximum of 2.5mg of Ativan alone would have caused what happened. Wikipedia states that ativan can cause "synergistic adverse effects" in combination with some other drugs, but I don't think it would have been as bad as it was if it was only the ativan acting.
I'm definitely going to mention it to him - it's a good idea. Strangely enough I barley noticed it at first.. only when it started getting worse did I really snap my attention at it, and at that point I just didn't panic Well, the friend K doesn't really matter He'll get over it sooner or later. It was weird, the other DPT numbed my throat where it dripped, but this just numbed the whole throat nearly right away. Well, it's not as strange as it seems when you've already been demolished and died 100 times over in your head
Friend was just here and said his legs hurt and it he thinks it might have been from when he was here.
Sure, love is a feeling, and even more, love is action, doing the right thing through thick and thin. Quite a TR!
Holy, holy shit. That sounds intense I echo what others have said and add that I've experienced some health issues with some tryptamines while on a relatively benign medication (Lamictal, an anti-convulsant) -- once ending up in the hospital myself for extreme dyspepsia and chest pain. I didn't make the connection until long afterward. Not to ignore the impetus of your story, but not having done DPT myself, I'm curious-- how does this compare to aMT?
lol it doesn't. The only thing you could "compare" it to is DMT, and it apparently blows even that outta the water. A mild MDMA like high for 10 hours doesn't compare to the intensity of DPT.
Duly noted! If and when I get my hands on some I'll treat it with the proper respect. Especially in light of the above TR
I wonder how adding a small amount of ketamine to the DPT line would go.... Maybe help relax and ease the transition...or just be too much.
i AM going to get my greedy little hands on some DPT within the next month or so. More intense than DMT? i want to taste that entheogen. But, i sure as shit will not snort it and am not thrilled with needing almost a quarter gram (200mgs) to get full-blown, profound effects with oral dosing. i read some articles in The Entheogen Review in the late 1990's about low-dose IM with DPT - like 25-50 mgs. Has anyone here ever injected DPT IM? Thanks in advance folks. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Brrrrrp?
Crazy shit CS, on saturday me and 2 friends ate ~2.3g mushrooms and about 2 hours into it they both suddenly collapsed to the ground within minutes of each other and were shaking and unresponsive and having a full ego death psychedelic seizure, one guy let out a long loud sigh and didn't breathe again for quite some time. it was unnerving but i trusted in the safety of the compound and in their inexperience as factors in this dramatic turn of events and they ended up fine, but absolutely destroyed, i had to explain this is all normal mushroom reactions to a potent dose. i think it was obviously medically dangerous to mix 5 ativans with 150mg dpt . . . psychedelics can lower your breathing rate (cause of death on LSD overdose is respiratory failure) and benzos lower your breathing rate too . . . . sucks that he doesn't remember a thing and doesn't think he tripped, hope he still learned something from your telling of the events . . . there is no escape or help in dpt, ya just gotta do it if you're gonna do it, the point of no return is when it's been snorted up your nose. my own trip is delayed a few weeks now i didn't do it this weekend, i hope when the time comes and it's a good day to do DPT I have the proper level of humility and strength. Awesome TR, good to know that 10 minutes into it I'll be +++.