some datura questions.

k, before anybody mentions it yes i do intend to look at erowid.
now i have a "yellow ballerina" (store name) datura plant growing in my yard. i wanted to ask you all how i could safly use it and explore its effects. note that my reasearch of this plant will most likely be cast across the internet and library. but i do like experianced people to tell me what they know. i've heard many good and badthings about datura, and a main concern of mine is hospitalization of death. if possible i would like to find some information on the type of trip, if a "sitter" is neccesary. however vany knowlege is welcome thank you all and i look forward to reading your comments.

 

the best advidce i've ever seen given about datura was pretty simple: don't even worry about it. pretend it doesn't exist.

its use as a ritual plant for shamans/natives is one thing, but honestly outside of that context (lifestyle even) datura shouldn't even be considered as something to ingest.

 

well, thank you for your advice. however i do intend to use it either way i just want to find a sefe way to do so. sorry, i don't mean to be offensive by ignoring your intellectual warning. however if you would have anymore to say i will listen, but not neccesarily follow.

 

right well most of the reports online about poisoning and hospitalization occur because people grab about 10 flowers and chew them all at once.

don't use any more than one full flower (even half a flower to start). have your trip sitter look up and familiarize themselves with all possible signs that you are psychically in trouble so that they can make good decisions. of course make it someone you trust/who would understand you becoming absolutely out of your mind.

if you insist on doing it, always remember that it's possible to take more later/on a different day and to treat this plant with complete respect and understanding that, as soon as it takes hold, you WILL belong to it.

good luck, when are you planning on doing it?

 

thank you for all that, i dont really have a planned date. most likely when i fully reasearch the plant. from what i've already read a sitter seemed somewhat obvious. however it may be hard to tell if im completely out of my mind because half the time i act like a loonatic any way haha. and i already respect the plant without having tried it yet so their are no worries their. but all in all thanks for that last comment.

 

My advice is get some less dangerous drugs.
Do you have any experience with the use of psychedelics or deliriants, as datura is a fairly heavy trip. I guess im wasting my breath trying to talk you out of it so ill just say if you do intend to do datura start with a small amount, have a sitter, dont leave the house, dont redose quickly if you dont feel the effects & just be careful. Also try to do it when you have atleast a few days to recover as your vision will most likely be screwed for days, sometimes weeks.

Well good luck you have a lot more guts than most wanting to try this plant, also let us know when you do go through with this and write a trip report

 

well, i have no experiance with deleriants but i do use mushrooms quite often. thank you for telling me that my eyes will be messed, wouldnt that be a lovely surprise! and sure ill write a report... i love homework on my summer vacation...haha lol im kidding,
oh and i have a question for whoever wants to answer it ; does it matter if the flowers are dried or not? i'm assuming that there is a differance but how big a differance is unknown to me.

 

lol the closest thing to a deleriant to me was staying awake for 5 days......that is just nuts

 

when my friend made datura tea, he boiled about 10 flowers in a huge pot of water. just pick the flowers (they come out very easily) and as soon as you get the chance just remove the seed pods and toss em in pot of lightly boiling water and stir it occasionally. so yes they can be fresh. look online for info about how long to cook them, i believe did it for around 15 minutes. you can also just eat an entire flower straight off the plant but somehow that seems crude. again fresh works just fine.

my friend drank one flowers worth of tea and fell asleep beacuse he was "very tired" and couldn't stay awake/couldn't see straight. i now know that hallucinogenic effects start after this period so you should try hard to not go to sleep even if you feel very tired.

 

From what I hear the best way to go about it if you are seriously inclined in trying it is to simply eat the seeds. Start with 10-20 and work your way up, and see how you feel as you go along. (Though the effects don't start immediately so don't go eating more and more if you're not feeling "it" right away.)

The thing with Datura is that there is no guaranteed amount of hallucinogenic chemical per volume of plant/seed material, hence "Pile A" containing 10 seeds may end up being 20x stronger than another pile of 10 seeds. This can be risky in the sense that there is a fine line between how much of the chemical is needed to trip and how much of the chemical is needed to overdose and die.

Also it is said that dried flower material can be smoked for a more pleasant and less lengthy / reality disconnecting trip.

I would definitely advise a trip sitter, somebody who is willing to actually keep an eye on you for the duration of your trip (24-72 hours), as people more often than not end up wondering off outside their homes and do stupid shit like walking into traffic or running around naked.

Good luck!

Here's a quote from Erowid.

(http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=11630)

 

Around 6th grade my friends thought it'd be cool to make some tea.

Two days later one of them was in jail and the other was MIA. When he came back he had no pants.

So, if you plan on getting pant-less in the desert with Datura, by all means take a camera.

 

u need an experienced shaman that will sing to u icaros songs, that can rare off the hallucinations and effects.
and u will so regret touchin datura i tell u ..

 

took it once---made tea from the leaves--i had a trip i was driving in a car doing about 200mph---the street lamps were flying by--even though i was laying down it was really real but i think i poisened myself cas i had to keep puking and drinking water so i had something more to puke----but friends were seeing things and talking to people who werent there--dangerous shit---but its part of my resume and im glad i tried it--wish i had a teacher to teach me the correct way to use it though------

 

I don't know. I smoked it plenty of times and it added quite a dreamy feel to my high (smoked with Marijuana). Some people have positive experiences doing the full blown tea-brew experience, you just need to go into it with deep respect for the drug, high caution, and not to mention a trip sitter. You see kids who hear about it and think "pMg free Tripping" and then they're the ones who end up in the Hospital or running around in traffic ass Naked.

Just needs to be approached in a serious manner.
I'd say smoking it is well worth it though if OP is 50/50 about taking the full ride with tea.

 

lol oh how you will regret this....

 

lol have u ever smoked it or ate it?

 

fuck no, I value my life and sanity

 

Lame

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=315835&highlight=datura&f=116

 

Haha I read that one. He didn't end up so lucky lol. He seems quite incoherent now
I personally would never eat that shit. But smoking it is a whole different ball game