Society And Sex The Hidden Taboo

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by Backchat, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. Backchat

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    Do you ever think to yourself about how much sex is oppressed in our society. Can you for instance talk to your next door neighbour and friends about sex or maybe even your family? I would think the simple answer to this question would be no. The reason being of course is that we as a society are still living in a sexually oppressed society. Of course we can quite easily get access to sexually related material, through sex shops or the internet but that doesn't really make us a sexually liberated society.

    It's certainly quite understandable why people come to this forum and start talking about sexual matters, when they can't do this with people around them for fear of being called weird or even worse a sexual pervert.

    So my question to you is this. Are we indeed still living in a sexually oppressed society in the 21st century, and if you think we are then what can we do to bring about a change in this, so the subject of sex can be freely talked about in society?
     
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  2. Terrapin2190

    Terrapin2190 I am nature.

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    Option 1: Therapy/Counseling

    (With professionals or networking)

    Option 2: Orgies?
     
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  3. I'minmyunderwear

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    neighbor, probably not. i don't even know her name after all, i've seen her a couple times and said hi, and that's the extent of our relationship.

    friends, well yeah. what else do you talk to your friends about?

    family, it depends on what part of the family. not for the most part, but then i don't talk about much with my family.
     
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  4. Backchat

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    I actually did quite well today because I talked to a neighborhood friend of mine about sex in society, and we had quite an interesting frank discussion about it. I'm not so sure my immediate
    neighbor would be so happy to talk about it though, in fact thinking about it I'm sure he wouldn't and neither would his wife. I guess the problem is that a lot of people regard sex as a private secretive thing they do at home in the bedroom, so it's none of your business and therefore nothing to do with you. This is one of the reasons why I think sex isn't widely discussed in society in general, unless it's down the pub of course.

    You have some very good friends there who don't mind talking about sex. Regarding family well you might as well be banging your head against a brick wall, they don't pay you a visit to talk about their sex lives do they.
     
  5. Sakie

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    1. Definitely
    2. Continue to raise our children and show them that sex and sexuality is a normal part of life, and that it should not be a shameful thing.

    Now I'm not saying to tell your 11 year old child that doggy style is the way. My parents used the "old enough to ask, old enough to know" a lot. They never "covered" the real names of the sex organs, and encouraged me to use "penis" and "vagina" if I was ever talking about genitalia.
    When I asked about if they had sex when I was older, my mom would say that yes they did, and apologized if I had ever heard them.
    When I had sex at 16, I told my mom within that week. She had expected it, honestly. She asked if we used protection, and if he was polite about it, and things like that.
    But my stepdad had a different view. He would barely kiss my mom goodbye in front of me, nevermind talk about it, or go for a butt grab when I was around (which apparently he DOES do, found recently found out at 21). Because of this, I often thought that they didn't have as loving of a relationship as some. No hugs...no kisses....it seemed weird to me.

    Anyway, I'm rambling here. I LOVE talking about sex. I was lucky to find a few friends who were OK with talking about it with me, but I don't have any of them here now :( That's why I joined here, actually. Something came up I wanted to talk about, so I searched and found Hipforums. I browsed some forums and....people were getting straight, non judgemental answers to their questions! When you bring up sex amongst others, they get this weird uncomfortable shuffle that tells you you've gone too far but they don't want to say anything...

    So anyway:

    Strangers: Not typically. Some are open (like me) and can in pretty much our first conversation
    Friends: Select view. Only my cousin left, but sometimes I'm afraid she'll be judgemental past anything but "normal"
    Family: Cousin again (same one). My mom in the simplest details. We still have that boundary haha

    So to bring up my answer to the second question again:
    Don't shame your kid from having sex. Yes, encourage happy, respectful relationships. But even if your 13 year old has sex, and with a boy you don't particularly like, don't shame them! They need your support, and they will NEVER come up to you again if they need help.
    If they have questions, answer them.
    Ensure they have the knowledge to do so safely and respectfully

    If your friends start talking about it, never (even jokingly) say "That's weird" or "gross" or "Nobody needs to hear that". You may think it's a joke, and you may not mean it. But it hits hard.

    I guess I didn't make a solid point, just rambled. But thats what came of your question, haha
     
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  6. Moonglow181

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    Sexually oppressed society? I would say no. Everywhere I look I see and hear more about it than I wish to.
    Society seems to be flooded with it.....and in that, I find it not sexy anymore....I find mystery to be sexier.
    I have class and do not wish to discuss my sex life with anyone accept with anyone who may be involved in it or hear about other people's sex lives. i am not interested......as it gets sickening to hear about...after awhile....

    What are we pigs or human beings?
     
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  7. Karen_J

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    Except for a hedonistic (and mostly underground) peer group in college, I've always lived in an EXTREMELY sexually repressed society. In some ways, it seems to be getting worse. When I look at Facebook, it appears that the majority of my old friends have flipped to the other side. Also, the business world has become much more conservative during the years I've been in it. I don't see any possibility of improvement on the horizon.
     
  8. Moonglow181

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    and no insult to the animal pig....I think they are very intelligent, wonderful animals.....
     
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  9. Karen_J

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    They also seem to be very open, liberated, and self-confident about free love. Most animals don't care who watches them fuck. ;)
     
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  10. Moonglow181

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    I am not interested in watching them either....when they are doing that.....
     
  11. Karen_J

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    The point is, it's only humans that get incredibly uptight about such things. Animals have no opinion on what you watch. It has nothing to do with their lives. Like toddlers, they're naturally Zen. Adult humans have to work at it.
     
  12. Moonglow181

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    Being private and being uptight about some things are two different things.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Seeing a fresh comedian, having a good laugh, watching a new romcom, having a good cry, being hungry, diving into a juicy steak, being horny as then....well

    These are all the only things we dont all end up getting bored with. All those things about the brain and body that reset themselves

    Everything else is just working like a slave to pay off shit you get sick of looking at, or nowadays is designed to fuck up before you pay it off so you have to buy another one straight away
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    and going by the number of people in the world....um....how is sex ever repressed.....whenever I hear someone tell me they are pregnant...I can fill in the blanks and know what they have been up to.....and that is more than I want to envision.......We have brains......

    i always think there are three ways to connect with people.....mental....in the head......thinking on the same level so to speak about many things.....emotional....my heart is with you no matter what....and thirdly, what this thread is about which is more common, but how long will it be before that gets boring without the other connections in place?
     
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  15. Karen_J

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    I can't believe you have to ask. People who are not prudes are constantly having to worry about getting in trouble with prudes.
     
  16. Moonglow181

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    Where? Kardashian and the like put the name on the universal block to make millions eventually with a sex tape....and there are many stories like that.....
    just because I may not want to discuss sex with strangers does not make me a prude nor does it make me judgemental...i simply have nothing in common to discuss with you, is all....so I move away is all and look for something I am willing to discuss.....

    and it was refreshing to be away for 4 days in Cape Cod with baseball players and some wives and not having the sex topic come up once with anyone......it was also very sexy to get a smile from someone across a crowded room.
     
  17. Karen_J

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    North Carolina is not in any way similar to Los Angeles or New York.

    In the corporate world, in any part of the US, you're no longer supposed to say anything at work that you wouldn't say in church. Upper management people used to constantly cuss like sailors, when it was an all-male culture. Then a few women infiltrated their ranks, and nearly all of us were extremely liberal about such things. We got with the program right away. Later on, conservative women reached those higher levels in significant numbers, and the US Department of Labor changed the regulations, at their request. Now any use of profanity (by men or women) is considered to be a form of sexual harassment, and I'm not talking about just sexual terms. Any woman who feels offended can file a formal complaint. That's an example of America moving in a more prudish direction.
     
  18. Moonglow181

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    I am in no way in favor of an impedement of freedom of speech about anything.....I believe anyone should have the freedom to say anything they want to as long as they are not threatening someone else.....in the workplace...I would tell someone to shut up if I did not want to hear it anymore, and if if they did not, I would try to move away from earshot of them, and if that still did not work.....well, then what?
     
  19. Backchat

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    Well anyway I guess we all have our own different ways of looking at things and sex is no different in that respect is it, after all that's what makes us the individuals that we all are in life. To be quite honest with you, all throughout my earlier years I didn't feel comfortable with talking about sex with anyone. I guess coming to HF has transformed me in the way I think about sex now, and this is the reason why I have suddenly become opened up to it. I think this is a very good thing for me, because I no longer feel repressed with talking about sex with anyone either male or female, and that has to be a very positive thing. Isn't it strange how a simple change in my life such as joining HF forum has changed me into a sexually liberated person as I am now.
     
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  20. Karen_J

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    Then you wouldn't be one of the problem employees. In a department meeting, if some guy says "this report we got from the consultants last week is a goddamn worthless piece of shit" then I'm going to think, okay, he didn't like the report. Unfortunately, a lot of female employees would hear the same thing and think, "I must report him to HR and see that he's punished for talking like that in front of me!" They are such fragile flowers that they can't deal with anything. They're like five year olds. And then they wonder why they aren't as highly valued by upper management as their male counterparts. OMG!

    If a guy is married to somebody who is like that too, then the only time he gets to relax and be himself is when he's alone in his car or at a sports bar.

    So far, I've managed to avoid hiring any women who are like that. I hate being around them. If I want to talk like I'm in church or around toddlers, I'll go to church or hang around toddlers.

    Since people spend more than half of their waking hours at work, I think this cultural change has negatively impacted the overall US culture. I know this isn't exactly what the OP had in mind, but it seems relevant to some degree.
     
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