So what do you think?

Discussion in 'Coming Out and Confused!' started by LogsOnSticks, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. LogsOnSticks

    LogsOnSticks Member

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    Okay, some of you probably remember that I like this guy at my school and he could be gay...Now it's just a matter of whether or not he is.

    So, I'm gonna list the reasons why I think he is and why I think he isn't. Then you can tell me what you think...
    The cons are smaller than the pros (which is already a plus), so let me get that outta the way.

    CONS

    -Well he mentioned that he'd get married and have kids at like 35. While gay couples can technically do that, the impression from the little group conversation was that it was a male-female, typical marriage. The conversation started b/c I said I wasn't gonna get married or have kids. Of course they ask 'why' and one guy asked if I was gay, but...I said nothing lol.

    -He once made a joking reference that a good house party would be to have hookers there. Again, it's a joke, but at the same time his mindframe seems to show that he'd be interested in that. And hookers are usually female.

    -On a stereotypical gay appearance, he's not very flamy or gay-looking. But who cares, I don't look gay, either.

    So the cons are pretty weak. Now, to the good stuff...

    PROS

    -uses a lot of hand gestures, often limpy (I like to call that limpwrist disease lol)

    -his voice, although sqeaky, has a little bit of a gay accent to it (not a big deal either, but who cares)

    -LOVES Will and Grace! Watches the new and old episodes, told me how he'll stay up until midnight just to watch that.

    -once expressed that he didn't understand why gay people can't get married and that they should. This is a big deal since we go to a strict Catholic school.

    -seems to have an interest in the gay flamy kids in my school. I'm good friends with two of them, so when I'm with them and he's there, he's not weirded out by them. In fact, he seems like he enjoys their company and has this urge to "fit in" with us. You know, like "one of the guys."

    -not on the likeable side in grammar school or now. He's not hated, but not very well-known or anything. Perhaps he feels like he's an outcast because he's gay, and a lot of gay people feel like this at times.

    -He never talks about girls in a sexual way. Trust me, in an all guys school, every guy is horny and girls are mentioned ALL THE TIME or a comment is made. Never heard any from him, yet.

    -And the overall obvious pro is that he seems to have an interest in me. I mean, my friends at school make comments how "that freshmen" stalks me and is always around me, which is true. It's a small school, so whenever he sees me he'll go out of his way to talk to me and be with me and approaches me with this smile and some sort of comment. We'll spend time after school just chilling in the hallway to talk and stuff. And when I'm with him I sense this mutual intimacy and interest going on...Like today he put his face close to mine and gave this "look" by widening his eyes. So I did the same back. Just overall stuff like that.

    It seems like I'm basically his only good friend at this point. I spend a lot of time with him during school and he always wants to. He's always taking that initiative to do so.

    Who knows, maybe he's like a loser and everyone else isn't as friendly with him whereas I'm a nice person who's friendly and genuinely nice to everyone. I have that good reputation in my school. All of the disliked, loser people like me because I'm like that. I'm not saying that to be mean or ignorant, but yes, that's also high school.

    I dunno if something is brewing, but at the same time he's a freshman so he might not be so aware of his homosexuality yet? It's very iffy and risky but at the same time it's there....

    Who cares, I really like him and if I know he feels the same, I'd be happy.

    What do ya think???
     
  2. hipunk

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    What do I think?

    Well, I think you're gay and have a crush on a little flirt who keeps following you around because you obviously get off on it. Is he gay? How the heck would I know?

    All the Cons you present could also indicate that he's gay but covering up. All the pros could indicate that he's metro or curious and has a straight boy crush on you. Even the part about Will & Grace, but he could have said the thing about saying up late to watch it because he knew you would think that was cool. Maybe you need to hang together away from school. Seems like that's what he's asking for.

    Is he a little immature for you? So but, he can't be a loser! No way, not if you're crushing on him. ;)

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  3. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    Some guys make commets about girls, actually most guys do. Some guys don't make commets about girls though because they don't want to talk about any specific girl, like it would be a bad thing to mindlessly talk about a girls ass or ... whatever...
     
  4. SunshineLovePeace

    SunshineLovePeace all you need is love

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    I say go for it mayn. If ya really like the guy, you'll regret not askin him out (or askin him how he feels) later on cuz u'll always be like "what if..."

    yeah, thats my 2 cents :)
     
  5. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    I have to agree with hipunk here. It sounds like you really need to spend time with the boy away from school. Don't call it a date, and don't get your hopes up too high just yet. It sounds like you're really looking for someone to say that he's definitely gay, but it's impossible for us to know that for sure because we've never met him.
     
  6. mushie18

    mushie18 Intergalactic

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    I agree, you need to hang out with him outside of school. Just you two, maybe see a movie, or whatever.
     
  7. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    I don't think it's such a good idea to bring anything up with him that seems too "direct" at this point. In my opinion, he seems to be at least curious...but I dunno. I've never met him.

    If he always follows you around, it's a pretty good indication he's interested in you....in what way, though?

    Ask him to hang out.
     
  8. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    wait...do you have any idea if he thinks you're gay?
     
  9. LogsOnSticks

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    Good question, Bassist...

    I dunno, sometimes gay people just have this feeling that you're gay just because of gaydar...Perhaps his interest in me is his gaydar going off on me because he might think I'm gay, you know?
    Whether or not he's aware of this...

    Does he think I'm gay? It's quite possible. Like I said, there might be that mutual suspicion going on that we never confronted to each other yet. But I do drop little lines here and there that would hint out I am.

    For example, I was telling him with one of my gay friends that we (my gay friend) have a child together (of course we're joking). But you get the idea. He found it amusing and actually goes along with it.
    I was also having a discussion with another one of my gay friends around him about this kid who got into an argument about why homosexuality is wrong, and basically I was saying how he was ridiculous in thinking that.

    So he definitely has the impression that I'm all for homosexuality since I hang out with gay people in the school and I make comments like about pro gay marriage.
    Is he freaked or weirded out by it? Nope...It's like he naturally accepts it because he's gay, too.
    In an all guys school, you'd get different responses from straight people, EVEN if they have no problem with gay people...His response to my comments seem to point out he's gay.

    And today he made a comment to me about hanging out with me, but I don't think he really wanted me to hear it. He was like, "Why do I always stay around school longer than I want to when I promise myself that I'm going to leave early?" And I was jokingly like, "Don't make promises you can't keep." His response wasn't directly aimed at me because he was saying it off to the side but he basically said something like, "thats because you're always here after school and I like being around you and talking to you."

    I didn't respond to that because it wasn't really aimed at me to be heard...So it sounded genuine and at the same time it seemed like it was a too "sentimental" comment to just be said to my face like that when everyone else was around, you know?

    Oh, and when he left he was saying how he needs to get home by 6:30 to watch Will and Grace...And again he was telling me how he watches it everyday at 6:30 and midnight when its on...haha
    I don't think he's trying to get me to like him when he says he likes the show because the reason why he told me he liked it was because it was brought up...And we just expressed our love for the show...I mean, he'd have to be really desperate to win my acceptance of him over a show like Will and Grace, lol
     
  10. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    Yeah, it could be his subconsciousness, or on the other hand he might very well be aware of his "attraction" to hang with you.

    He definitely gets that you accept homosexuality with open arms. Beyond that is all personal interpretation.

    Aww....[​IMG]

    I think that might be his way of sending you a signal that he's interested...but maybe I'm being presumptuous.
     
  11. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Jesus ask him out already.
     
  12. LogsOnSticks

    LogsOnSticks Member

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    lol it's not that easy!

    But I'm warming up to it...Christmas is coming, it's that magical time of the year...I wanna find out more about him before anything else, so I'm gonna try and hang out with him more.
     
  13. amp7325

    amp7325 Visitor

    You should definitely hang out with him more, and since winter break's coming up soon (I don't know how soon for you), that's a perfect opportunity.


    I hope it works out. :)
     
  14. Bassist

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    I hope it works out for you....

    Take it really slow; don't rush anything on him. (even questions about his sexuality)
     
  15. LogsOnSticks

    LogsOnSticks Member

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    I was thinking I'd get his email for a start so I can stay in touch with him over the Christmas break...I wanna take this slowly and carefully
     
  16. TreeFiddy

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    thats a good idea. but definitely go for it, i think it could very well work out!
     
  17. mushie18

    mushie18 Intergalactic

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    I agree with treefiddy. I think it's a good idea to stay in touch with him. From what you have told us, it sounds like he is curious. Hopefully something will work out between you two.
     
  18. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    One great way to get his e-mail is to give him yours.
     
  19. LogsOnSticks

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    Well I asked him for it today and he wrote down my screen name on the palm of his hand...lol.

    He said he'd take mine and that he'll "im" me first...Let's see what happens with that!
     
  20. LogsOnSticks

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    nothing really "juicy' lol....

    Although he did call my cell on Christmas to wish me a Merry Christmas =)

    I thought that was sweet, especially since he was at his aunts and stuff for a family Christmas party when he called. Took me by surprise!

    And then we frequently talk online. Unfortunately, he can't hang out over the break because he'll be going away and he's got work and stuff, but he said how he'd "love to."

    And our online conversations are entertaining, too. He'll say how I'm Will and how he's Jack/Karen from Will and Grace...lol. A little fanatical and stuff, but you get what I'm trying to say.
     

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