So... about that Mueller investigation

Seems to me many still clearly distinguish between the 2 parties and believe rigidly in the 2 party system, like dogmatically. As long either one speaks out for or against an issue like abortion for example, they're set. No matter what else matters.

I agree with Okie; the amount of uninformed is more dangerous, just like the rigid conviction they as a citizen can never make a change.
If every uninformed and hopeless citizen would vote on a third party that matches their outlook closest an enormous signal would be given already. I agree this seems unlikely as hopeless american citizens rather not vote at all or insist on keeping the political status quo.
I really hope (and expect) american politics work better on a local level

 

Neither party represents me. Often they work together to please the same corporate puppet masters while speaking to the people with different sales pitches as they grow the government more powerful and take more of our freedoms away. To me, the Democrats have bad rhetoric and bad policy actions, whereas the Republicans sometimes have good rhetoric and have bad policy actions. So yeah, I would say the republicans are worse since they talk about lowering the size of government and conserving our liberties, but don’t usually follow their rhetoric. Democrats on the other hand are very consistent with their talking points of expanding the size of government and following their rhetoric.

 

Mueller is going to testify. Adam Schiff just said so.

 

That's why I love you, admire you, and respect you!

 

A ma

A major support for the two party system is the Electoral College. No matter how successful third parties are in getting onto the ballot, they need a majority of electors to win the presidency. Even Ross Perot's Reform Party, the most successful in history, in the 1992 election, received slightly less than 19% of the popular vote and 0 electoral votes. So a voter who decides to vote Green or Libertarian is essentially casting a protest vote. If Democrats do that, they're helping the Republican candidate. Reform of the system would require constitutional change, which must be initiated by Congress, which is controlled by the two major parties. Now it is true that the states technically control the winner take all aspect of the electoral college, and two of them have abandoned it. State legislatures, however, also are controlled by the two major parties. (Catch Twenty-two.)

 

The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves, and the American people have been so dishonest with themselves for so long about their political system that they have no meaningful system left. For ten years I surveyed people only to have them all confirm my worst suspicions and refuse to acknowledge that their votes no longer matter. Conservatives would first complain their votes no longer matter because everyone is voting for whoever advertises the most, and then chide liberals for their voting record. Liberals would complain their votes no longer matter, then rush to vote to ensure conservatives didn't win. The lights are literally on, but nobody is fucking home and they can't even agree on the definition of stupid, much less admit their political system is fucked up and beyond repair.

Such people are capable of anything when they can no longer deny reality so easily. They insist they had the finest education in the world and know what they are doing, yet one in five also insists the sun revolves around the fucking earth!

 

If you don’t like the candidate of an electrol party don’t vote for that party.
Australia have their election to vote in the new Prime Minister this saturday.
For example i won’t be voting for one nation because their leader is a racist tosser.
Pick a party that you think is right. Vote for them.

 

You don't get it, it doesn't matter who you vote for in the US! It literally makes no difference what anybody says or how anybody votes. The entire country has been lying to themselves for so long about actually having a political system and not just allowing money to do whatever the hell they want, that they no longer have the slightest clue what a real political system is like. The courts are now compelling people to testify against themselves, no cop in the country has needed a warrant in over ten years, and anyone who exposes our president as a liar and a thief is automatically a traitor. When asked, they will all insist that majority rule in a lynch mob is democratic. The very idea of sharing their words and playing nice, of agreeing that might does not make right, are anathema to Americans who can longer admit even the most brazenly obvious truth to themselves.

If absolute power corrupts absolutely, its only because people are complete idiots, who kill each other all time for a few bucks more.

 

Mate, calm your farm. You’ve been arguing with the staff here.
I do get it.
I wouldn’t bother voting for Trump because of his past history.
You need to research the candidates and their policies first.
For example with the one nation party here in australia i wouldn’t vote for them because pauline hanson is a known racist bigot.
I’d be voting for labor and bill shorten.

 

Why on earth would I waste my fucking time researching 300 million people who all lie to themselves and each other, and who have disenfranchised themselves along with me? Would you like me to put it in different words? What words will convince you it is meaningless to vote? How many people do the courts have to throw in jail for refusing lie or testify against themselves, before you admit there is nothing worth saying to them and you might as well shoot yourself in the foot?

I've challenged anyone to come up with a single credible report from a single university that supports the idea their vote still matters in the slightest, because the list of studies that indicate it no longer matters what anyone says or does is extensive. A twenty year Yale study indicated that no matter who was voted into congress, only the wealthy ever got anything they wanted.

 

^ I agree.

It's deceptive movement aimed at giving society the thought that what they think actually matters. "Give them a vote, let them have their say". Society then believes this because that's what we are taught, that the government listens to us and that society rules on an outcome on how to run their country. This gives the people hope, something to strive for. The people continue to do what they do. They work. Nothing changes that, who gets voted in or not, the people are still working. Your role in life is to work no matter if your political candidate figure is elected or not. They really aren't your friends.

Bernie Sanders, people seem to like him? I dunno. Lets say he gets in right, well he brings different ideas to the table like all candidates and some people want better schools and stuff. So you elect him in. All that was, was this little condolence gift, a small school now gets an extra ream of paper and that keeps you as a parent happy and working and doing the same role in life still. They're not out there fighting for you. Any one fighting for you would just end the financial commercialism and capitalistic world we live in where we are constantly fighting to get ahead or to pay a loan or whatever, thinking this is just what life is. Constantly spending money to upgrade and they make it fun, they make things fun that you want, because it keeps you working because you want it. And we are all sucked into it! it's absolute genius, the more I think of it, the more respect I have for the government for being able to pull this off so well.

People in society are just like pawns on a chess board, the lowest of lows on that platform. Handy, hard working... but if you can't see what's happening, politics is going to remain a big factor in your life, exactly like they want you to think it does and that's because you simply don't know any better, and that's exactly their idea.

 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it think. There is no genius involved, and all the conspiracy theories are just more crap designed to convince people someone is actually in charge around here. The American people sold their government to the highest bidder, fair and square, right after WWII and all the money in the world started flowing into the country. The Athenians killed Socrates for cracking a handful of the lamest jokes imaginable, when the same thing happened there. They scream all that much louder, because they no longer remember the meaning of honesty and cooperation, much less what it means to be united.

 

And then the government nullifies everything in your life so you're homeless because you won't work. Yeah. Right. Big cock and balls on that ballot paper.

 

Congress has already authorized the military to round up citizens like so many cattle and made all the necessary preparations. In fact, they were so eager to give the military complete authority over the country that the Pentagon begged them to put restrictions on them. Money and the guns are doing all the talking worth listening to, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either a complete idiot, a lawyer, or working for the CIA. I warn people to keep their passports up to date.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Your billionaire mayors are arresting reporters, your billionaire president is cutting the mass media a deal on their rent, while you argue you still have a functional democracy. Americans have been selling themselves and each other down the river so long they have no clue what freedom is about, because you can't buy it at Walmart.

 

Indeed. Perot was only scratching the surface of 3rd party potential. So, if republicans do that, are they helping democrats? Votes can be siphoned all the way down to dog catcher.

I personally had a lot of respect for Ross Perot. While Carter sat on his own thumb as Iran took Americans as hostages, Ross Perot flew to Tehran with a suitcase full of cash to bribe the Iranians into keeping the hostages out of the prison system. Instead, they were safely segregated. But Perot lost all the money he hoped would set them free.

But, he bought their safety. And he deserved better than what he got when he tried to run for president. His family was threatened among other horrors visited upon him by the Bush and Clinton cronies.

Like it or not, Trump is as close as we have come in a very long time to a 3rd party candidate. But thankfully, the propaganda machine that couldn't touch Perot, is pissing on Trump 24/7. Right?

 

There's like 2 or 3 of them in the entire nation. Bloomy in NYC is the biggest at over $60B.

 

We grow them like weeds, and Mafia dons. Trump isn't a third party candidate, because we don't have even a two party system. He's the clown who screamed the loudest, and can get away with murder because he's a billionaire.

 

Because you need to know what the fuck they are on about in the first place.

You can always vote for any party you want to but look at it's history.
Democrats have always been controversial.
Republicans have been always on the ball with most things.

If you research the candidates of every party you will learn more about them and about what they stand for.

For example here in Australia i have friends on social media who are invloved with the Greens.
I've done my reasearch on that party and i'd prefer to have Labor as the majority of the party with some Greens in there.
Why?
Look at the Greens policies.
Look at the Labor policies.

Greens look after all things that are Evironmentally friendly. Things like measures to prevent people from littering the drains and other things.
But they also want to make the Bigger Parties more accountable for their own actions.

With the american stuff their candidates are all famous people.
Imagine if they put somebody else who was less of a big name and was just somebody like you and i.

Trump comes across as a narcissistic idiot.

 

Dude, there are no parties, Americans no longer have two parties or a political system in any conventional sense of the word. The entire world has stood completely dumb struck at the current insanity we call politics, because there is nothing there but blue smoke and mirrors. Anyone who has the money can now buy the entire mass media, along with the supreme court. Its a little difficult to have a political system where you have to buy the right to talk. The only thing that still distinguishes the republicans and democrats, when push comes to shove, is that they spend more money on advertising than anyone else. A billion dollars for a single election!@