Sin, meaning missing the sign, is an error in perception. If the eye be sound, (see correctly), the whole body will be full of light, but if the light, (true seeing or what you call truth), in you be darkness, (if evil is the truth), then how great the darkness. There is not one person on this earth that does not do for their own good based on their model of what good is. Errors of perception, sin, create disharmony in the self and all our untoward behaviors are an effort to regain balance. Errors in perception are forgivable. If you have not seen correctly you do not know what you are reacting to. Which is why the words, forgive them, "they know not what they do." It is not a comment on what they are doing, but a statement that given the world they see, they cannot help but do as they do.
More on that: "For their OWN good based on their model of what GOOD is." I have an issue with this. Alot of people deliberately do things for their own good knowing they are doing bad to other people. They know the model of good, and they know they are going against it, yet they choose to follow through because they care more about what's good for them. Why should they be forgiven?
More good trumps good. It is still their model of good. The language may be that I may hurt them doing this but it is still my good.
SIN Anything not in harmony with, hence contrary to, God’s personality, standards, ways, and will; anything marring one’s relationship with God. It may be in word (Job 2:10; Ps 39:1), in deed (doing wrong acts [Le 20:20; 2Co 12:21] or failing to do what should be done [Nu 9:13; Jas 4:17]), or in mind or heart attitude (Pr 21:4; compare also Ro 3:9-18; 2Pe 2:12-15). Lack of faith in God is a major sin, showing, as it does, distrust of him or lack of confidence in his ability to perform. (Heb 3:12, 13, 18, 19) A consideration of the use of the original-language terms and examples associated with them illustrates this. The common Hebrew term translated “sin” is chat·ta’th′; in Greek the usual word is ha·mar·ti′a. In both languages the verb forms (Heb., cha·ta’′; Gr., ha·mar·ta′no) mean “miss,” in the sense of missing or not reaching a goal, way, mark, or right point. At Judges 20:16 cha·ta’′ is used, with a negative, to describe the Benjamites who were ‘slingers of stones to a hairbreadth and would not miss.’ Greek writers often used ha·mar·ta′no with regard to a spearman missing his target. Both of these words were used to mean missing or failing to reach not merely physical objects or goals (Job 5:24) but also moral or intellectual goals or marks. Proverbs 8:35, 36 says the one finding godly wisdom finds life, but the ‘one missing [from Heb., cha·ta’′] wisdom is doing violence to his soul,’ leading to death. In the Scriptures both the Hebrew and Greek terms refer mainly to sinning on the part of God’s intelligent creatures, their missing the mark with regard to their Creator.
the word sin is just a meaningless word invented by humans with an alternative agenda,to try and condition and program humanity.if everyone went by everything that sin is told to be,there would be a lot less good done in the world.for example lieing is classed as a sin in the eyes of religious people.but would not a decent human being lie through their teeth to protect another given the circumstances.if you were hiding some out in your attic that was being chased down by others in the wrong.would you not lie if a knock came to your door askin' have you seen them?there are bad lies and there are good lies.i would'nt trust any human being who was to honest ta lie ,if that was what would be for the better good of another.i also believe jesus would have told plenty lies, cos i believe he was a good person.nothing in this life or world is is simply black or white.if everybody went by that conditioning code, there would be no humans ta count on ta cover the grey areas.sin is a stupid word.there is just wrong and right,and that sometimes also means doing what others may class as wrong ta do why you know in your heart an soul is right!
While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it. Jesus Christ counseled: “Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open.” (Mt 7:6) That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unnecessary harm. (Mt 15:1-6; 21:23-27; Joh 7:3-10) Evidently the course of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha in misdirecting or in withholding full facts from nonworshipers of Jehovah must be viewed in the same light.—Ge 12:10-19; chap 20; 26:1-10; Jos 2:1-6; Jas 2:25; 2Ki 6:11-23.
A marksman who misses the mark he was aiming at, actually missed the mark and that is not a matter of perception.
It is a line of sight activity. If the eye be sound, the whole body will be full of light. Sin is exactly an error in perception. The contexts you should be looking at are contexts of premise, not contexts of appearance in order or "worldly contexts". Christ teaching is about changing the status quo. No one puts new wine in old skins or the skin will burst and both the wine and the skin are ruined.
But the truth is, A marksman who misses the mark he was aiming at, actually missed the mark and that is not a matter of perception.
A markman has to see the target in order to hit it. Both you and thedope are correct. Sin is action based on wrong perception. The belief that we are separate leads to selfish actions. Why would we ever truly love our neighbor and God if we believed we are completely separate. The answer is seeing the interconnectedness between us and everything else including our neighbor and God. In the Gospel of John it says, "in that day you will realize that I'm in my Father, my Father is in me and I'm in you". Notice it says realize as in it's already true. If we are connected with everyone and everything then not only do we act selflessly because we see ourselve in others, but we also see that we can't die. That's why Jesus says those that believe in me have eternal life and will not taste death. It all comes back to having the right perception and acting on it.
OWB: No, the truth is always a matter of perception. Monkeyboy: No, sin is not even the wrong perspective! It has been ruled out! The error is gone for its being perceived. There is no evil. There is still sickness however. I think we'll be able get over it! : D
OWB: No, the truth of anything is always a matter of perception. If not our own, then anothers. "Truth" is unique to consciousness, and is existence itself the truth? That is a question that remains one. The next question is: - "can you live with it?" : D
